Microsoft was wrong with Windows 8, and it’ll be wrong with 8.1

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Windows 8 was released just a little over a year ago, on August 1, 2012. It replaced Windows 7, an operating system that, to many, was Microsoft’s best work since XP. Did Windows 7 need to be replaced just three years into its life? It’s debatable, but in an attempt to respond to the growing number of iPads and Android tablets eating into PC market share, Microsoft decided its answer would be an operating system that married the classic Windows interface with a “Metro” touch-screen OS.

Looking at PC sales over the past year, and especially at the reception to Microsoft’s Surface line of tablets, it’s clear that not everyone has bought into Microsoft’s approach. The good news is the company isn’t totally ignorant of that fact. At an employee town hall, CEO Steve Ballmer acknowledged that the company produced more Surface tablets than it could sell. He also expressed disappointment in Windows sales. And the company has made attempts to jump start Surface RT sales by dropping the price $150 — writing off $900 million to do so.

windows-8-1But the company really seems to be hoping that its in-preview update, Windows 8.1, can turn the skeptics into believers. The problem is, Windows 8.1 doesn’t fix the underlying issue with Windows 8. Sure, it brings back a start button. And, yeah, you can boot into the classic desktop if you want. But at the end of the day, Windows 8.1 is still a frankenstein creation — pieces of Windows 7 sewn to a full-screen “Start” page, live tiles and the side-scrolling Metro navigation.

You can configure the Start page and your classic desktop to have the same background, but in my experience, that didn’t make the act of opening a classic app any less jarring. And for every app that is built for the Metro interface, there are a dozen that aren’t. So if you’re on a laptop, even if it has a touchscreen, you might ask yourself: what’s the point?

It’s probably the same question developers are asking. It must seem pointless to develop for the Metro interface when Windows tablets aren’t selling well and most of a user’s time is spent in a traditional desktop environment. And the worst part is that Windows tablet sales and developer support are highly connected, and one needs to be happen for the other to have a shot. But as long as one flounders, so will the other, and it really comes down to the fact that Microsoft was wrong about what people wanted in a tablet.

A brief glance into the past, back when tablets ran full versions of Windows, should have reminded Microsoft that tablets of that era failed to take off for a reason. A look at today’s successful tablets, such as the iPad and Android devices, should have shown Microsoft that a simple, touch-first interface is the key. But Microsoft again tried to cram a full-blown Windows operating system into tablets and then slapped on a touch-optimized “Start” page, and added a completely different interface for touch applications, to boot.

Microsoft’s mistake with Windows 8 was that it tried to converge its classic desktop with a touch interface too quickly. The company talked itself into believing that people felt limited by iOS and Android. That marriage of the Windows desktop and the Metro interface is an unhappy one, and that’s nothing that a new Start button or other small tweaks can fix.


— Shawn Farner

Shawn Farner is a Harrisburg-based tech blogger who has been involved in online media for over seven years. He covers consumer electronics, Web-based services, and tech startups. Read disclosures here.




Comments


  1. Gotta disagree. After three weeks using Win 8 on my laptop (no touchscreen) I had not only adjusted to it but was just as productive as I had been in 7. Sure, I grumbled at first, but that’s been the case with every major update. Even 7 introduced significant UX changes. And I am really appreciating the consistent experience across my Thinkpad, Surface Pro, and Lumia 920.

    Microsoft had to make this move, even if they did so awkwardly. It will work out over time. Watch.


    • “It will work out over time. Watch.”

      Vista would like to have a word with you.

      • Chris Levenduski says:


        Vista actually DID work out eventually, although not in the way Microsoft anticipated. Look at the overall success and design of Windows 7, then compare the GUI and features to Windows Vista. It’s practically the same operating system in many ways. It was the road map that eventually led Microsoft to Windows 7, which is an awesome OS and a more than worthy successor to XP.


        • So you’re saying Ms has to create a frankenstein OS before a proper OS in order to make a leap forward? Everytime a company forgets who they are, and what they are supposed to provide, they are doomed. It happened to Apple in the 90’s. RIM is a perfect example in the last 5 years. And Microsoft is trying to be something it’s not and forgetting who they are in the process.


          • umm didn’t Apple forget who they are and started making portable music players(ipad) and cell phones(iphone)? I do not think Apple is a good example and didn’t Microsoft do pretty well jumping into the arena of video games system hardware which was totally forgetting who they are.


          • Apple is still selling Macs. Now, how did they “forget” who they were?


          • They have certainly forgotten where iPods are.

        • Atul Malhotra says:


          When will I get my Windows XP touch screen tablet !


        • The thing wrong with Vista was never the design of the GUI but the performance of it. How slow it was and resource heavy. It worked out for Windows 7 because of the optimizations that were made to it. It’s really a shame to see them throw away all that work for a new GUI that would have easily worked on Vista in that it is rather primitive and not very resource heavy.


        • Except Vista didn’t actually work out because of its problems, Windows 7 worked out well because it was faster and more user friendly…Vista was the worst and even an internal Email in microsoft said that it was basically crap and the hardware it was made for cant keep up.


    • oh, i watched… and the only good result vistabob 8 got was ruining ballmer’s career! well done for now, i’m still watching!


    • I ‘m still watching, vistabob 8.x nearly halted user base share growth in november. Nice. I’ll keep watching.

  2. Howard Abraham says:


    Integrating touch with keyboard and mouse navigation is completely natural to me now. It frustrates me to use laptops without touch these days.

  3. TheJokker says:


    Microsoft is waiting on Intel. As Intel releases future generations of it’s tablet cpu’s prices on previous generation tablets will drop. When the prices drop enough Windows 8 will sell.

    If the author knew a little more PC history he would realize history is indeed repeating itself.


    • Windows 8 will start selling when people cant buy Windows 7 anymore.


      • Windows 8 is already the third most used operating system in the world. More people use Windows 8 than all versions of Apple’s O/S combined.


        • most used os in the world us java os, in every embedded device, a market ms totally lost nit being able to keep up with ce, we are talking of twice all pcs combined in numbers and value.
          then comes android, that aready surpassed windows.
          then comes linux, holding near a billion of embedded devices, even if in desktop it holds 1%
          then come windows, all versions combined, and ios is quite near for number of machines.
          of those major systems, windows is the only one quickly loosing ground.
          now, breaking down market penetration in windows only, windows 8 did twice worse than Vista did, and did especially bad in emerging mobile market, where saturation excuse does not apply.
          w8 is a dead horse, ms must ditch it to keep running with the majors.


          • Apples to Oranges and you are correct. Oranges to Oranges you’re not. Windows is still the dominant OS for Desktops, and will be the dominant OS for tablets, as Intel releases third and fourth generation processors. Microsoft is the only software company that has a OS that can harness “Intel power” while maintaining a tablet form factor.
            The new Haswell tablets and the upcoming 64-bit Bay Trail tablets make iPad and Android tablets “low end”. When prices fall (as technology prices always fall as that technology matures) Apple and Google tablets will be uncompetitive until they develop their solution to Windows 8. Right now Microsoft has a two to three year lead in the development of a tablet OS that can run “programs” as well as “apps” and connect to all forms of commercial hardware. Unless Apple and Google have been working really hard in secret I don’t see them catching up to Microsoft.
            The release of a $400.00 64 bit Bay Trail tablets will be the beginning of the fat lady’s song…


          • so, basically you have no point… just the same old answer to wait until magically intel rolls out the next next next gen product tat will save ms… only, that it is more than a decade people are waiting, and since ios/android ther is no longer point to wait, as dismall rt sales especially shown.
            ms hosed itself with vista/7/8 family releasing the post nt kernel that basically multiply by a factor if ten hw requirements, nt kernel would have nicely worked on phone specs of 5 years ago while 8 is the heaviest beast for today specs, wasting an insane amount of ssd even in its lighter rt incarnation.
            ms needs a brave move and throw away its current kernel, that was engineered at the beginning of 2000s with the precise scope of being so heavy to guarantee intel another decade of high power machines, but intel hit a phisical wall and the market gone mobile, so ms is so hosed there are no words to fully describe.
            anyone doing money in IT in last decade is well detached from ms, intel and desktop, this is enough to say how bad it is for ms now!


          • posting while drunk = bad.

            Tablet compatible cpu’s are here “today” that are far more powerful than anything Apple or Google is using. There are programs here “today” that can take advantage of the processing power but they will not run on Apple or Google tablets because of the limitations of their O/S.

            Apple and Google tablets are now low end devices. Unless they respond to Microsoft’s lead their days are numbered.


          • posting facts from ’90 s is bad. ms here is losing ground like a sheep trying to fly, and its disaster is even worse in ultramobile segment where they bet the company on. so low end they bet the company on it… ms was completely eradicated from embedded market, that now is twice or more large than pc one, in vista age, now it still struggle with vista generation kernel burdeen ad is not capable to dent mobile market, too bad they chose to kill desktop market like the fools they are with windows 8. look what oem are doing right now!


          • Posting facts from 2012 is bad… it’s almost 2014. Lots of powerful tablets will be hitting the market in the next 6 months. Much more powerful than anything Apple or Android has to offer. Much cheaper than Apple. As cheap and more powerful than an Android.
            FYI: Bill Gates is Forbes “richest man in the world” for the 20th time in a row. Your suggestion that Microsoft is failing as a company is not accurate.


          • who is losing sales? who is losing oem support? who had just failed spectacularly in mobile world? who had not met market requests of mobile suited product for more tan a decade? what computing model is menaced by cloud? what market plan has failed? what ceo has just been forced to retire in the middle of the storm? have a nice 2014!


          • Apple is losing sales. Apple’s stock is plummeting. Apple is losing support from Samsung. Apple’s market share of mobile products is falling. Etc. etc.
            The global economy is suffering and effecting the computer business across the board. It is absurd to suggest Microsoft has failed in the mobile market when that market is in it’s infancy.
            Mobile hardware is undergoing a revolution. It is undergoing a transformation. Apple and Google were not playing with Intel and Microsoft a year ago. Intel and Microsoft are the 800 lbs. gorilla’s in a world of tiny, tiny monkeys…


          • apple alone has double income and double revenue than your 800 lbs gorilla, and has about 20% more total asset, plus has 10 record years for stocks while ms is infamous for its comatose stock performance.
            Add google, add oem that are abandoning insane ms business plan – i don’t call it revolution, slapping adware screen with ms services in the face of users before the desktop is gardly a revolution.
            This is current picture. yes, global economy is suffering but not ios, nor android, nor embedded devices market. wintel, is suffering even more the average industry. ask why, after a decade of broken promises of revolution from wintel, umpc, zune, kin, you can’t insult the world with a decade of lousy products and expect to keep credibility.
            ms lost the battle years ago, vistabob 8 is a big step in the wrong direction, denting objective technical ms advantages (oem, developers) with a lousy new API (limited connections, single distribution) and declared war to oem (we are a device company now), trading tem for VERY UGLY user interface that had already failed for years on windows phone…. that by the way was the last iteration of ms hosing hordes of developers when it cut support for wp7.
            battle was fought and lost years ago, while ms was busy irritating developers whit short lived platforms and failure in mobile the world turned to ios and android, and now apple incomes are ouble than ms one.
            ms cannot longer play the 800lb gorilla card, if it cannot play another way, it is game over. money run out fast when you have to pay thousands of workers.
            on the bonus side for ms, it gained 20 billions in a single day when ballmer announced retirement, and this is a good news!


          • Apple double income? Not…

            http://www.zdnet.com/apple-versus-microsoft-the-ticker-tape-tells-the-tale-7000014556/
            Apple (like yourself) is judging the mobile market by current and recent technology while ignoring technology in development. They have failed to prepare for “tomorrow” while Microsoft has. Apple, Google and people like yourself have been caught napping…


          • get a clue, don’t cast funny assumptions extrapolating few data points. look published revenue, income and total asset reports of apple and ms, it is not difficult. last apple fiscal year brought double income and revenue than ms. the stock trend is easily manipulated by fads and speculation in the short term, look decade long ms coma to see the real trend.
            apple and google made the future we live today, ms pretends to be doing the future we will live tomorrow, ms has to prove it, not me, not you.
            all i see up to now are failures upon failures, a constant trend from umpc to zune to kin to netbooks and ultrabooks, rt write down for lack of sales, and market share of w8 raising half the pace of vista one, especially slowly on ultraportable market, where i see oem abandoning ms business plan.
            ms has to prove to have invented the future, but all i can see disappoints me.

          • TheJokker says:


            within the computing world apple and google are niche players who lack a total solution. For them to replace Microsoft/Intel they would require expansion for beyond the mobile world and provide solutions to the professional world. A Giant leap.

            Microsoft by contrast is the entrenched solution. They only have to assimilate the niche mobile market. A tiny step in comparison.

            Apple and Google are years behind Microsoft and will never catch up. Next year at this time Microsoft’s market share of the tablet market will have doubled or tripled…


          • giant leap is not so giant, cloud and web based solution already took over most productivity fields, also ms is focusing on that due this is the new office-backoffice playground.
            tiny step is not so tiny, as ms has a decade long record of failure in this tiny step, and well before it had strong opponents in it.
            xp tablet flop, ce death, phone breaking compatibility at each update (next is due to unify with rt store, so basically now you are writing for a store being marginalized in one year) and failing to catch the first wave of smartdevices, zune and kin, current year long rt and surface pro flops in denting apple/google duopoly either focusing on arm or low power intel platforms: those are just examples how ms managed to be nearly eradicated form embedded and low power devices… very sad, as they back in early ’90s already had a solid vms derived kernel that originated nt with native full working hal, allowing easy porting on any platform, but chose to segregate themselves on intel since 2000, letting system development going crazy after insane intel projection of illimitate growth of power and totally missing mobility trend, while killing ce on arm in the meantime.
            intel, on his own, is equally missing to deliver a suitable low power patform, claims are always the same, disappointment is always the same, and response to complaints is always the same: reiterate the claims for the next generation.

  4. Donald Duvall says:


    Tech writers have the attention span and foresight of three-year-olds.

    ( Hi Rob!! :) )


  5. I also disagree. I absolutely _am_ limited by the iOS or Android on a tablet. I think Microsoft is on the right track.


  6. Holy cow, this is the first site that I come to that think positively on window 8


    • You must not frequent many quality tech sites than. I’ve seen this sort of general sentiment grow tenfold recently across the web.

      • Mary Hinge says:


        You mean sites that are positive towards W8 ? Ever considered that they are PAID to be positive ? There is no integrity in reporting or opinions nowadays. Everyone has their price. Turds might be packaged in nice gold foil, and vigorously promoted, but the content remains the same.


        • +1 I don’t take anything at face value anymore. Not even the comments section, or user reviews. If someone is blatantly praising a product (or completely bashing it) without justification, I instantly assume they are paid. MS employs bloggers. Any win8 praise I instantly discredit. No one loves win8, not compared to win7, or any established tablet OS. It is inferior – period.

          • Mary Hinge says:


            Advertising, political speeches, TV news and even sermons are all little more than unadulterated bullsh*t.

            Only the gullible believe without questioning.

        • Dennis Rideout says:


          nope i love 8 ever think people might actually like it?

    • Dennis Rideout says:


      theres nothing wrong with windows 8 its just windows 7 with metro basicly

  7. Mary Hinge says:


    I refuse to part with XP. Too many apps don’t work properly with anything higher up, so why bother, and why incur the expense.


    • Because new apps and games have already started dropping compatibility support for XP.

      • Mary Hinge says:


        Why ditch existing apps (and OS) that work perfectly, just to be ‘seen’ using something a bit more recent ?
        Newer is not always better.

        • excuzzze me says:


          Have to agree that “newer is not always better”. Sometimes I feel that newer is a step in the wrong direction at times. I think most OS’s miss at some point in their development Sometimes the miss is obvious and sometimes not. At the end of the day, nothing is perfect for everyone. The major flaw is the obsolescence that is built into the OS’s, at some point you are forced to go new or go home.

    • Chris Levenduski says:


      Windows 8 may not be all that attractive to you, but you should really consider upgrading to Windows 7. It’s leaps and bounds ahead of XP in almost every aspect, with the added benefit of receiving regular security updates from Microsoft for the foreseeable future.

      • Mary Hinge says:


        Microsoft’s so-called “updates” have been little more than attempts at covering their ‘built-in’ design flaws.
        Personally, I don’t trust MS, and the only reason I still use it for some apps, is that those apps don’t run smoothly under Linux.

        • excuzzze me says:


          Linux is getting there. Since it is a volunteer organization, upgrades are slow. I agree that some apps just don’t get it done even when using “Wine” to emulate a windows machine.


    • I have windows 7 pro and I have had 2 open source xp programs not want to start in windows 7…Windows 7 automatically asked me what previous version of windows did it run in and made itself compatible and they both have run fine since. You can also run a full blown stand alone version of xp in virtual mode if you buy professional version or higher. I highly recommend upgrading to 7…It crashes a lot less than xp and is faster -only thing i don’t like about 7 pro is libraries and user group permissions. Tried windows 8 and it sucks for a desktop non touch screen setup but Ive down loaded the beta 8.1 and will try that…I have a feeling it still sucks though.

    • Dennis Rideout says:


      i have no issues maybe its you

    • Atul Malhotra says:


      Ditto, Mary

      I still use one of my old desktop machines which carries 40 GB HDD ( non sata ), 512 MB RAM, and runs WIN XP ! The machine cost me 70 dollars and my monitor cost me 30 dollars, Yes I did add a new DVD writer worth 15 dollars … I am more than happy !

      I will buy a touch device if and when it carries WIN XP !

  8. soni manutd says:


    while the case is true, bloggers seem to overlook that windows 8 is leaps & bounds better than any previous windows. booting up, shutting down, loading apps are as fast as Mac OS X now if not better, so far its stable. Am just a regular consumer so i dont know how it is inside the OS itself but on the surface, like i mentioned, am very very happy. yes, its still cumbersome for me to have to go metro-home screen, bring up the “apps” button to get into the “apps” screen/tray, and you’re lost there because apps dont seem to be listed/displayed alphabetically (it looks so but not really). so hopefully, 8.1 implements full-desktop experience.

    • ataripixel says:


      I like the fact that from the metro screen I can just start typing the name of the app, as soon as it’s narrowed down, usually 3-4 letters in, I just click enter and the app loads.

      • Chris Levenduski says:


        Couldn’t you already do that with the “Run…” box that shows up when you click the Start button? I’ve been using Mac OS heavily over the past 4-5 years, so I may actually be wrong about this, but that’s how I remember it working for me.

        • ataripixel says:


          With the run dialogue, you would need to know the full path and application name. In Windows 8, all you have to do is click the windows key and start typing. All items are indexed and it works like on a Mac when you click the search and start typing.


          • Nope – Works the same as in Windows 8
            1. Press Windows key (brings up start menu in Win7, Start screen in Win8)
            2. Type application name
            3. Proffit

          • ataripixel says:


            Search has worked this way since Windows Vista, but that’s not the same thing as the Run dialogue box.


          • Point still stands. “In Windows 8, all you have to do is click the windows key and start typing.” You can do the same thing in Windows 7.


  9. Windows 8 was designed to meet Microsoft’s needs,
    not the needs of the consumer.

    Microsoft forced a cell phone/tablet interface
    down the throats of desktop users
    because they want to gain market share
    in cell phones and tablets.

    But Microsoft did not have the common sense
    to make it work well for desktop users,
    and it works poorly for desktop users.

    The consumers noticed that
    Windows 8 is a poor choice for their needs
    so they are avoiding it.

    And the notion of touch on the PC
    as a universal input mode is the height of insanity.
    Heard of Gorilla Arm research 30 years ago?

    http://catb.org/jargon/html/G/gorilla-arm.html

    Apple has done extensive research about touch on Laptops
    Former CEO Steve Jobs had this to say on the topic:
    “We’ve done tons of user testing on this,
    and it turns out it doesn’t work.
    Touch surfaces don’t want to be vertical”.

    http://betanews.com/2012/07/12/windows-8-metro-is-pointless-for-the-enterprise/

    It does not work . . nuf sed

    It’s just that Microsoft is pushing Metro
    down everyone’s throat
    so that users will get used to it and buy
    METRO phones and tablets
    that have DULL – STALE – MONOTONOUS – HARD RECTANGULAR

    ONE COLOR TILES THAT HAVE

    AN IMPRESSIVE SELECTION OF UGLY COLORS ! !

    Win7fanatic


    • You make some valid points supported with good links, then around “nuf sed” switched into full-tilt-boogie troll-ese replete with all capped hyperbole.
      Your opening contention that Microsoft made 8 to meet their needs and not their customers is just plain wrong… they’re a tech company like any other trying to make a product that will meet the needs of the vast majority of their customers to ensure continued market dominance and profits. But their customer base have needs slightly different from that of the individual private consumer that comprise Apple’s and Android product vendors’ customer base. Basically, almost every single medium and larger company or organization out there has their application portfolio firmly dependent upon the Windows platform. But with the consumerization of IT, Apple hit a latent customer desire for touch friendly highly mobile devices – and shortly thereafter, iPad toting employees were knocking at the door of sleepy IT departments demanding these devices be enabled for the workplace. Microsoft then realizes their client OS is no longer invulnerable and naturally they come out with 8 – and 8.1 shortly there after, to deliver an OS that can deliver touch driven tablet experience, or boot to desktop to offer the more conventional Windows desktop experience. And while the resulting platform is of course dramatically different, it largely hits all the bases. Private consumers will continue to opt for Apple and Android, but companies will really be looking to WIndows 8 tablets that can run their existing application portfolios but also offer a touch-driven tablet experience to hit a sweet spot for their employees’ mobility and productivity needs. This will be what will keep Microsoft on top in the workplace, but yes – Microsoft has suffered a major setback as far as the individual consumer market is concerned.
      I for one like the clean edges of the new tile interfaces on their various platforms (Windows, Windows RT, and Windows Phone), and that includes the colour selection.


      • Obviously you haven’t tried to use Win8 as a workstation. Using excel, cad, or any usual workhorse software that runs excellent in a win7 environment becomes cumbersome and annoying in win8. metro?! Who cares, if I can’t be as productive as I was a year ago. Things are supposed to be easier, not harder.

    • Dennis Rideout says:


      dont use metro use desktop mode and stop crying they added more and your complaining


  10. Average Joe walks into Best Buy
    and checks out 2 tablets.

    Both are similarly priced.

    One is windows RT tablet the other is ipad tablet..

    His 1st thought:

    “mmm.. ipad looks so attractive!
    surface RT looks so DULL AND BORING..
    i should consider the ipad since everyone is buying it
    and it looks so great too!

    Dear Microsoft, to compete with the ipad
    and take over the tablet market worldwide..

    YOU MUST CREATE SOMETHING

    > > MORE ATTRACTIVE < > MORE ATTRACTIVE < <

    than iOS ! !

    Windows 7 fanatic.


  11. I like Microsoft to come back to the versatile W7 version which is highly good design.


  12. Linux- android the way to go. Dump Windows.

  13. John Pombrio says:


    There was a survey a few months ago that was pretty damning. The
    average number of Win8 Start Menu apps run by users was a little over
    one a day. Get rid of e-mail and it dropped considerably below that.

    The other eye opener was how many people WHO OWNED TOUCHSCREENS on
    laptops and desktops averaged no more Start Menu usage than regular
    monitors and RARELY TOUCHED THE SCREEN.

    Mind you, I love Win8 and would hate to go back to Win7. I just completely ignore the Start screen (thank you Start8!) as do a vast majority of users.

  14. Stiletto8 says:


    Windows 8 has allowed the smoothest transfer of data, settings etc. from older OS. My test was an older Vista Home machine I updated to win8 and not only was everything working, it was working faster and better. so give me a break about being a paid hack just because I think the OS kicks butt. I have updated or clean installed from XP as well as Win 7 and it always worked just great. Yes, I prefer it with a touch screen and there are a few things I wish they would change, but overall it is a great OS. I will keep recommending it to my customers and I will keep installing it.

  15. Hating it in Afghanistan says:


    Lets see, has junk I don’t want – x-box, REALLY? It had the most bloatware in history on that “START” screen. Everybody selling you stuff. AD banners in my OS? Touchscreen on my monitor, arms aren’t long enough. RUN? Never used or needed that. Junk pooping up in the corners. Can’t open a solitaire game in a window? Using memory for stuff I will never use or need. Loads faster, maybe in your world. In mine, slower and with additional screens I have to go thru to get to the desktop so I can do useful work. Failing to see the improved experience. Love the way it locks up twice a day. Put me in hater group. Soon as I get back to the states, this is going on e-bay and I will get a system with a PC OS, not a tablet/cell phone OS.

    • excuzzze me says:


      IF you think “Run” is useless then thank your IT department and the repair guys that fix your crapped up machine because you screwed it up. It is a powerful tool if you know what it does and how to use it. That being said, doesn’t mean I support M$. Never have supported Apple anything. Apple is all bells and whistles and shiny new toys. At the end of the day, it’s an over-priced piece of crap. M$ is a wanna be in the IT field. M$ says it “listens to the customer needs” but still comes out with their version of what they want the customer to have. Someday they might actually listen and deliver. The author needs to go back to school or at least know his subject matter.

      • Laronesmith says:


        There are two types of tech companies, those that tell customers what they want and those that give customers what they want. The first type will suffer serious missteps by getting it wrong from time to time, while the second type is assured a slow death due to lack of innovation. It’s interesting, right now were watching Apple transition from type one to type two and Microsoft transition from type to to type one.

      • Johnny Walker says:


        I am very sorry to disappoint you but you don’t know Apple at all. It can do stuff that any DOS machine can only dream of.

        I have a MacBook Pro. I partitioned the hard drive in two partitions 50% of the capacity each. On one partition I am running Mac OS X and on the other partition a run Win 7 Ultimate 64bit version owing to the fact that can run both 32bit and 64 bit software on a Mac and it works like a dream. I had Win 8 on the DOS partition but I changed that to Win 7 Ultimate.


  16. Yeah this bloke really has no idea. Windows 8 had a learning curve which was a bit frustrating at first, but I wouldn’t be seen dead on an iPad after having all the functionality of a windows 8 tablet.

  17. Carnage Rules says:


    I like Windows 8, it took a little time to get used too it, but I now prefer it over Windows 7

  18. [email protected] says:


    I totally agree


  19. LONG LIVE XP!

  20. InDifferent says:


    The mistake they made is compromising. Instead they should have just gone all the way and done away with the desktop entirely in favour of Metro UI. I hate it when it switches to the desktop almost everytime I click on a app in the UI. The desktop is ugly, messy and very dated. Love Metro UI on both my PC and Windows phone. Half measures always end up slightly barstardised. Adding the start button back in is simply a backward step in the wrong direction. Same with Xbox One, MS suffer from a serious lack of self confidence/belief in their ideas and the way they communicate them.

  21. Cristopher Jiménez Torrellas says:


    So much bitching Jesus, stop hating, you haters of WIndows 8 are living in the goddman past, its time to move on, WIndows 8 is the best OS MS has produced to date, its super fast and smooth, it only needs the apps that iOS and Android have to fullfil its potential, this article comes from a whiny bitch.


  22. Most people I talk to love it. The people who are complaining are people who don’t do well with change. Huge improvement and vastly superior to any other OS. I LOVE my new touchscreen Win 8 laptop. Not everyone works in IT.

    • Dennis Rideout says:


      you got it they added more features and people complain. microsoft gets hammered when its the most used system on the planet


  23. Also, the side swipe start feature is more efficient than the old start button. Why can’t people figure that out? Very simple!


  24. I love windows 8 i do admit that I use classic shell but once teamed with classic shell it has the best of both worlds


  25. I personally like my W8 Ultrabook.(Levono U310). W8 itself is great. It has a much cleaner interface for the desktop things than W7 did(and had much better system apps). I was not a fan of Aero, it felt like a waste of the graphics card, and I like how metro is all… flat.

    Installation techinique for W8: Install Windows 8. Ignore confirming E-mail address. uninstall or hide all the apps. Install all the applications you always knew and loved.

  26. Dennis Rideout says:


    this guys prob a yuppie apple fan boy he doesnt have a clue


  27. The end result is I now have my primary PC configured for triple boot. Win 7 for most of my work, Win 8 I use to fix user problems on their Win 8 PC’s and familiarize myself with it. Lastly, I have a XP partition for the few Apps that wont run on a 64 bit Win7/8 OS. A bit of a pain but manageable.

  28. Arvind Chitale says:


    I agree. Nobody seems to be happy with Window 8.

  29. houstonbeachgirl says:


    I do not like my windows 8. I was very comfortable with 7 and wish I had it back!

  30. Dave Crowder says:


    This author is a fanboy. He is too young to know anything but Apple this, Apple that and does not know the history of computing and the players involved. If he knew this he would also know that the industry does things in fits and starts. Apple almost sank except for a hand-out from Gates and MSFT, but who cares to remember that as that is now ancient history. People talk about how MSFT screwed WP 7 users, but the only ones I hear complain are people who don’t own one. I have WP7 and it is great. When time to trade, then it will 8 or 8.1 or what ever they call it. Same think with Win 8 and Surface. I gave my IPad to my son since they so love Apple products and got a Surface RT which can do so much more.


  31. I think I’ll wait and see what 9 brings to the table…..

  32. William MacDougall says:


    Why would anyone want to take their fingers off the keyboard and touch the screen? On a tablet that’s necessary, but on a laptop it ain’t, so why would you? They are fundamentally different products. Microsoft failed to ask that obvious question. Apple thought it through. More generally, Microsoft has always made bad products, and wasted time on pointless changes, rather than making them work properly. It went a long way through good salesmanship and luck, but without good products it won’t survive.

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