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Hello all;

I am trying to insert a vertical navigation menu in the left side of every page on my server and I'm having problems. The problem is, I want to put text/links to the right of the menu, but every attempt that I make, it either breaks the menu table up or it places the text above/below the menu.

The following link is the page I am referring to:

http://slashdos.no-ip.org

....the large open gap of black space in the center of the screen is where I want text/links to go. I want to make this area a different color background and maybe add a scroll function (not sure on that yet). I basically just need to make an isolated area to the right of my menu for text/links.

(Note: The DHTML menu design will probably change, this is just an example. Also, don't mind the table borders...I use them as guidelines and then disable them later. :P)

Thanks

\\DOS

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There are a million and one ways to accomplish what you want. This is the way I would handle it, just based on simplicity:

<table><tr><td valign="top">

<table id="m1mainSXMenu2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="1" width="192" >

<tr align="center">

<td align="bottom" width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg0.gif" alt="" /></td></tr><tr align="center"><td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm0',3);exM(m1,'none','',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm0',0,1)" id="m1tlm0" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1mit" background="./menu_m1bg1.gif"><a id="m1tlm0a" onmouseover="window.status='Tech Tutorials';return true" onmouseout="window.status='';return true" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1CL0" href="\pages\techtutorials.html" >Tech Tutorials</a></td>

</tr><tr><td width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg2.gif" alt="" /></td></tr><tr align="center"><td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm1',3);exM(m1,'none','',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm1',0,1)" id="m1tlm1" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1mit" background="./menu_m1bg1.gif"><a id="m1tlm1a" onmouseover="window.status='Downloads';return true" onmouseout="window.status='';return true" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1CL0" href="\pages\downloads.html" >Downloads</a></td>

</tr><tr><td width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg2.gif" alt="" /></td></tr><tr align="center"><td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm2',3);exM(m1,'none','',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm2',0,1)" id="m1tlm2" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1mit" background="./menu_m1bg1.gif"><a id="m1tlm2a" onmouseover="window.status='Forum';return true" onmouseout="window.status='';return true" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1CL0" href="http://s15.invisionfree.com/slashdos/index.php" >Forum</a></td>

</tr><tr><td width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg2.gif" alt="" /></td></tr><tr align="center"><td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm3',3);exM(m1,'none','',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm3',0,1)" id="m1tlm3" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1mit" background="./menu_m1bg1.gif"><a id="m1tlm3a" onmouseover="window.status='Funny';return true" onmouseout="window.status='';return true" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1CL0" href="\pages\funny.html" >Funny</a></td>

</tr><tr><td width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg2.gif" alt="" /></td></tr><tr align="center"><td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm4',3);exM(m1,'none','',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm4',0,1)" id="m1tlm4" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1mit" background="./menu_m1bg1.gif"><a id="m1tlm4a" onmouseover="window.status='Games';return true" onmouseout="window.status='';return true" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1CL0" href="\pages\games.html" >Games</a></td>

</tr><tr><td width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg2.gif" alt="" /></td></tr><tr align="center"><td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm5',3);exM(m1,'none','',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm5',0,1)" id="m1tlm5" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1mit" background="./menu_m1bg1.gif"><a id="m1tlm5a" onmouseover="window.status='The More You Know';return true" onmouseout="window.status='';return true" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1CL0" href="\pages\randomfacts.html" >The More You Know</a></td>

</tr><tr><td width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg2.gif" alt="" /></td></tr><tr align="center"><td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm6',3);exM(m1,'none','',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm6',0,1)" id="m1tlm6" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1mit" background="./menu_m1bg1.gif"><a id="m1tlm6a" onmouseover="window.status='Quick Links';return true" onmouseout="window.status='';return true" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1CL0" href="\pages\qlinks.html" >Quick Links</a></td>

</tr><tr><td width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg2.gif" alt="" /></td></tr><tr align="center"><td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm7',3);exM(m1,'none','',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm7',0,1)" id="m1tlm7" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1mit" background="./menu_m1bg1.gif"><a id="m1tlm7a" onmouseover="window.status='Contact';return true" onmouseout="window.status='';return true" style="color:#17684A;" class="m1CL0" href="\pages\contact.html" >Contact</a></td></tr><tr align="center"><td align="top" width="192"><img src="./menu_m1bg3.gif" alt="" /></td></tr>

</table>

</td>

<td valign="top">This is where you could put all of the text/content beside the menu</td>

</tr></table>

As I hope you can tell, I've just wrapped the menu script into another table, and made the content a <td> in that new table.

Hope that helps.

Edited by jsbowen

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Wow, I can't believe how simple of a fix that was... :o

Thanks!

Edit: Hmm...still having issues. The text is appearing too close to the menu and I can't seem to space it away from the menu. Also, if I try to put the <TD> into a <TABLE> it puts the text below the menu again. I want to build a secondary table to work with for text/links. Otherwise, I don't think I can edit bgcolor or define a size for the area of content...

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Wow, I can't believe how simple of a fix that was... :o

Thanks!

Edit: Hmm...still having issues. The text is appearing too close to the menu and I can't seem to space it away from the menu. Also, if I try to put the <TD> into a <TABLE> it puts the text below the menu again. I want to build a secondary table to work with for text/links. Otherwise, I don't think I can edit bgcolor or define a size for the area of content...

Ok, for the edit part you are probably looking at nesting a table. I'll just show the content part of the table code from above:

<td valign="top">

<table bgcolor="gray"><tr>

<td width="20">This could be your spacer td to allow some space between the menu and the content.</td>

<td>This is where you could put all of the text/content beside the menu</td>

</tr></table>

</tr></table>

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When altering the color for the content <TD>, it still shows up a faint little line around the hidden table (almost like half a border or something). I'm not at the house right now to upload it, so I can't really show you right at the moment.

I will update it tonight and let you see.

Thanks for the help, it is starting to look just how I want it. :)

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Nevermind, I fixed it.

I do question the need for a nested td that is not wrapped within a table tag...it isn't causing problems when there, but if removed the content table shifts below the navigation menu. The reason I ask about this is because the app that I use to check my code brought up an alert of an improperly placed <td valign="top"> tag...

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it's stating that because you didnt' close the tag.

try to add this

</tr></td>

so it looks like this

</tr></td>
</table>
<!--end of navigation menu -->

on a preliminary look I think this will solve your error code you are recieving.

I can't get a proper look at it as I am getting a javascript bug error on a missing file. and I don't want to hunt around your code to find it ;)

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Eh, I got frustrated, scrapped that entire design and went with something new. New name too...kind of a play on words. Address = http://complhex.no-ip.org

Check it out and tell me what you think...and what all is wrong with it. ;)

Keep in mind that it is still in its basic, unfinished stage. :)

Thanks

\\DOS

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looking good, only misnomers i find are listed below.

first. that "interesting text color" can not be used on a white background. not only that it looks like something I used to clean out of my kids diapers. (think about it)

second, the web site name is ComplHEX however your logo says CompHEX. you might want to fix that :)

otherwise looks good.

What made you decide to kill the original design???

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looking good, only misnomers i find are listed below.

first. that "interesting text color" can not be used on a white background. not only that it looks like something I used to clean out of my kids diapers. (think about it)

second, the web site name is ComplHEX however your logo says CompHEX. you might want to fix that :)

otherwise looks good.

What made you decide to kill the original design???

The logo has a faint large "L" written in "caddie" font in the background...I might need to brighten it up a bit...I actually plan on making the logo larger. The interesting text color is going to be done away with...I was just playing around at the start and left it be.

I killed the original design because it just seemed too problematic...I didn't really like the DHTML menu that much (seemed a bit too childish)...this design will represent much better content integration. The one thing that bothers me most about websites is consistency...when navigating a site, the tables, nav links and design structure should stay intact (for the most part). The white window of this page design gives me a build area, while everything else can just be replicated for each page and remain intact. The old design was a bit more choppy, if that makes any sense. :)

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The logo has a faint large "L" written in "caddie" font in the background...I might need to brighten it up a bit...I actually plan on making the logo larger. The interesting text color is going to be done away with...I was just playing around at the start and left it be.

I killed the original design because it just seemed too problematic...I didn't really like the DHTML menu that much (seemed a bit too childish)...this design will represent much better content integration. The one thing that bothers me most about websites is consistency...when navigating a site, the tables, nav links and design structure should stay intact (for the most part). The white window of this page design gives me a build area, while everything else can just be replicated for each page and remain intact. The old design was a bit more choppy, if that makes any sense. :)

I agree with your reasoning and prefer the new design as well.

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