spirittoo Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Ok it happen like this ... a couple of days ago I was watching a youtube video ... and the computer locked up on me ... had to do the reset button to get it going again. I happen again yesterday and I had to reset. Booted up okay. Today I was listening to a radio stream with real player and a youtube video was loading up. The computer locks up on me again. I hit reset only this time I get no signal! I see the cpu light is on, but my power light isn't working ... the fans come on and the DVD players light up, but the keyboard will not and the monitor indicates no signal. I get NO system beeps when I start the computer ... I get nothing on the screen except the "no signal" icon. I have a new cmos battery in. The system I'm referring to is in my sig. What is the problem? I'm at the library and I think I only have an hour so if someone can give me something to work with. I will keep an eye out for a response before my time is up. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Most go now will check back again tomorrow ... could it be the video card with no system beeps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mabpest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Ok it happen like this ... a couple of days ago I was watching a youtube video ... and the computer locked up on me ... had to do the reset button to get it going again. I happen again yesterday and I had to reset. Booted up okay. Today I was listening to a radio stream with real player and a youtube video was loading up. The computer locks up on me again. I hit reset only this time I get no signal! I see the cpu light is on, but my power light isn't working ... the fans come on and the DVD players light up, but the keyboard will not and the monitor indicates no signal. I get NO system beeps when I start the computer ... I get nothing on the screen except the "no signal" icon. I have a new cmos battery in. The system I'm referring to is in my sig. What is the problem? I'm at the library and I think I only have an hour so if someone can give me something to work with. I will keep an eye out for a response before my time is up. Thanks.Pull then cmos pin and try a cold boot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Pull the RAM then try to start it. If it doesn't beep then put the RAM back in and pull the video card, Still no beep start looking at the PSU, CPU and motherboard as the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Pull the RAM then try to start it. If it doesn't beep then put the RAM back in and pull the video card, Still no beep start looking at the PSU, CPU and motherboard as the problem.I did put the ram ... nothing ... I bought a new video card ... nothing ... I change the CPU ... nothing ... now it's down to the PS ... I pray it is not the mobo ... is there a way I can check it without getting another one first?I will try the cold boot ... and see what happens. I'm using a neighbor's computer. I will get back and check for more information when I can. I will see if I have another ps and try that. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Start looking for another motherboard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 Start looking for another motherboard.Oh dear ... I did change the power supply ... nothing .... it started briefly, but lock up again before I could get the the bios. I will try resetting the cmos ... I will get back to you ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 I pulled the cmos pin with the battery in and put it on the other two pins for 30 seconds then back again ... then tried with the battery out ... nothing ... I didn't try to boot with the pin completely out ... I will try it, but I guess it's down to the mobo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Got a new mobo ... an intel 845G but I not getting any power. I can't figure out how to hook up the power switch and the other connectors ... I see something for the hhd, but not the power switch or the reset switch ... I don't have the manual, and I'm now at the library trying to find it. If anyone knows where I can get it please post ... I'm sure I am not getting power because I don't have it hook up right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 What model number motherboard. Intel makes many 845G motherboards.D845GBV D845GEBV2 D845GERG2 D845GLAD D845GLLY D845GLVA D845GRG D845GVAD2 D845GVFN D845GVSRManual, BIOS & drivers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 What model number motherboard. Intel makes many 845G motherboards.D845GBV D845GEBV2 D845GERG2 D845GLAD D845GLLY D845GLVA D845GRG D845GVAD2 D845GVFN D845GVSRManual, BIOS & driversGGGee ... I didn't know there were that many ... It's the one with the 478 socket 533 FBS ... it really doesn't have anything else. I found a manual, but there was nothing about were to connect the wires for the led lights power light, reset button ... the hhd ... I think I found something about the power connection "J 18 :ATX 12V ... that may be it. I try it ... it that doesn't work I will have to get back to a working computer and work through this. I'm sure it's the finding the right connection. It may be a guessing game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Right ... I'm back up and running again ... just need to do some tweaking ... the device manager say that the ethernet controller is not congifigured properly ... when I when through the install new hardware for the controller ... once it was installed it knocked out my internet connection. I had to uninstall it to get the connection back. Any one know what's up with that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Something weird is going on ... I shut down the computer and turn the power off to make some adjustment ... when I tried to boot back up ... nothing ... no power ... same as before ... I checking the connections ... nothing ... then I took out the CMOS battery and put in back in ... power came on. Why? Why do I have to remove the CMOS battery in order for the power to come on? How do I correct this? I disable the LAN in the BIOS and that stop the new hardware ethernet controller.Also I went to the Intel site and found this ID tool ... it claims my Mobo is a D845GRG ... when I looked up the manual and looked at the drawing of the board the places they claim were connection for the led were not there ... here is a link to the site with the infoDownloads and spec info Edited October 30, 2009 by spirittoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 What adjustment did you make with the power off? Make sure the Cmos pin is in the right location. When changing anything in the Bios make sure to Save & Exit (F10). Study the manuals to similar motherboards in that series for the LED connections. Some motherboards may be different revisions or proprietary setups for manufacturers such as Dell, HP/Compaq and etc. and would have a different pin layout.The pin layout should be marked on the board with very small letters. Use a magnifying glass to look for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) What adjustment did you make with the power off? Make sure the Cmos pin is in the right location. When changing anything in the Bios make sure to Save & Exit (F10). Study the manuals to similar motherboards in that series for the LED connections. Some motherboards may be different revisions or proprietary setups for manufacturers such as Dell, HP/Compaq and etc. and would have a different pin layout.The pin layout should be marked on the board with very small letters. Use a magnifying glass to look for them.I just turn it off so I could put the plug for sound into a different hole ... that's another thing I am having problems with ... no sound ... something is up with my mixer ... it won't load and the part with all the audio controls in the control panel are grayed out. I left the pin in the short position and booted ... it only allow me to clear the password and such ... when it was done it told me to return the pin to is original position which I did. When the screen comes on I do see a "gateway" logo instead of intel. Anything wanted to keep in the bios I hit the F10 key and exit.I used a magnifying glass but the only thing I see is "front panel hdr" with a group of pins ... then there is another group of pins with "front panel USB" .. that's all I see in that area.Do you think the mobo is defective? Or just need tweaking?Oh yes ... there was something else I forgot to mention ... the power switch doesn't function. After I put the CMOS battery back in and plug it in the power comes on ... so I never even get to use the power switch. Edited October 30, 2009 by spirittoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I've been at the intel site getting upgrades for the mobo ... I notice there is a bios update ... do you think it will help ... they don't recommend using it unless there is trouble ... which there is ... what do you think? In the mean time I'm going to start doing the updates they have listed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I guess you guy are gone for the weekend, but I am having trouble installing the update driver for the audio ... the program thinks there is no driver ... meaning it doesn't recognized it. Apparently gateway in their infinite wisdom alter it some how now intel doesn't recognize it. So they tell me I have to go to gateway. Of course I don't know what model they put this board in so I need some other means of getting a driver for the audio ... I have a sound card, but I wasn't able to get it to work so now I'm working on the on board sound. Any ideas? I'm trying to find generic drivers but no luck so far. Help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 GATEWAY ESSEX MOTHERBOARD D845GRG, serial #'s 4000783, 4000828 (These are proprietary boards that use a special connector from the power button and etc. Look for a serial number on the board to match it.)Click Scan Your PC at the right and see if it identifies the drivers.Check the following to see if it matches your motherboard. You can click on the blue items such as Front panel connector to see the layout of the pins.4000828Search for something similar to your board Front Panel ConnectorsYou could also use the following programs to help determine what your hardware is and what drivers are needed..Everest 2.20SIW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 GATEWAY ESSEX MOTHERBOARD D845GRG, serial #'s 4000783, 4000828 (These are proprietary boards that use a special connector from the power button and etc. Look for a serial number on the board to match it.)Click Scan Your PC at the right and see if it identifies the drivers.Check the following to see if it matches your motherboard. You can click on the blue items such as Front panel connector to see the layout of the pins.4000828Search for something similar to your board Front Panel ConnectorsYou could also use the following programs to help determine what your hardware is and what drivers are needed..Everest 2.20SIWWell it certainly explains why the power switch won't work or why the led don't work. I have the 4000843, but I don't see how you found that link with the other model number ... do you see my anywhere? Will this board work with my computer? Is this the reason why I have to remove and replace the CMOS battery to get it to work? I'll try the other links you provided ... thanks. Oh and when the computer is shutting down I see the mixer come up and I have to click on end program ... so even though it's not showing up and working it's trying to run. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Another poster noticed something at the site where I got the mobo there is a link below to a gateway support site ... I never realize there would be a proprietary problem ... I figure they would say it's for a gateway computer only, but I don't see that. Anyway ... this link looks like the place where I get all the drivers. One poster said I would have to completely reinstall windows ... is that true? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I got my sound back finally ... I put the sound card I had (diamond dt-688) back in ... finally found a site with the driver that I could download with out having to deal with that stinking driver detector software ... then installed the drivers ... sound again! ...now the only thing is the start up problem ... I can live without the led lights, but I don't want to keep taking the battery out to boot up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 A fresh install is preferable when changing motherboards. With XP you could do a repair install. I don't know about Win2K. Search through the list for Front panel connectors for part # 4000842 or 4000844 and see if one of those pin layouts are the same. You should be able to adapt your power connector to fit the board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 You say a clean install is preferred with XP, but how about 2k? Is it really needed? I downloaded all the drivers and installed some of them. The computer is function as it should ... the only think is having to but the battery out and in to get the computer to boot ... there must be a way ... How did you find that board? I put in my part number and I got no results ...is it because it's not listed? I put in one of the model numbers in the search at the site you gave and I get no results. How did you get that? Do you think it's possible for me to get the power switch to work without formatting the hard drive? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirittoo Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) I have another question ... I just found out that the "gateway" take over mobo only support 1G of ram while the real intel board supports 2G ... why on earth would they reduce the memory capacity? That makes no sense at all. I order a 1G memory stick ... now I have to cancel ...also ... I found info about the power connections ... check it Power connectionsThese were the pins I was telling you about ... Front panel USBNow that I know what they are all I need do now is figure out how to get them to work ...and is the connection in a roll or up and down? Edited October 31, 2009 by spirittoo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Experiment with the power connector. If it functions and the computer works fine don't worry about the rest. You could run that setup until you find an actual Intel board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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