[iccaros]

mewi, on Apr 26 2009, 04:42 AM, said:

jcl, on Apr 25 2009, 01:13 PM, said:

mewi, on Apr 25 2009, 09:51 AM, said:

NetWork Drive: And you could have your BIOS infected before you bought the motherboard from someone else, what is your point? Just because it switches owners means it didn't require user interaction to become infected? Thats a bit silly =3

You missed the point on that one. The user-interaction occurs before the virus is present on the drive; the infection is a side-effect of automated processes (automatic network drive remounting, AutoRun, etc).

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That bird comparison was very much farfetched.

You right: humans and birds have more in common than viruses and worms.

"Automated"? I can't see how you can get a virus without initiating it through some form of interaction. If you are still clinging to the manufacturer of the product that led to a virus, that is user interaction. Some scum working for the product embeded a virus in the product.

You have to do SOMETHING to get a virus, it is impossible to get a virus if it is standing there off and not plugged into the internet ,without any removable devices. Sure you can receive a machine with viruses, but they still got there somehow...

In my opinion you don't know what you are saying! with that last statement lol.

As for this whole debate, I think it's starting to become circular ;p I'll just say I believe what I believe, and you can believe what you believe.

yes, then its completely useless to most users. so who cares..

yes you must turn on the computer.. and you must use it to get a virus.. some make it harder than others for viruses to propagate(you probably do not remember but the first two shipments of windows 95 floppy's had a boot virus on the install disk.. and at that time, the OS was not always pre-installed by the manufacture.. so yes the user had to install the OS to make the system useful, but they had no choice)

and what dose atheist have to do with freewill?? Atheist just means the absence of belief in the existence of deities, coming from the Greek ἄθεος and agnostic mean with out knowledge (in case you want to clarify) ..

[mewi]

Icc, he said "God Help us All", just a snide joke lol. No God would help Me

Lets go back to Apples... who here is an apple fan, and find their ads filled with lies and misleading information? Who here is an apple fan that thinks the whole "Apple's are more secure than windows" is based off from no factual statistics? Doesn't the evidence support to knock out the lies by Apple? If not, why do you think the evidence and stream of articles do not support this Apple product security?

Also, what about the hardware, do you feel the hardware is actually superior to PC? Do you find the extreme costs, infexible design and monothemed product to be superior to the PC?

[isteve]

The latest security studies comparing Windows, Mac os and linux were funded by Microsoft. I'm not saying they're wrong.

But what I do know is that I do computer support for a school system we have many hundreds of computers in the system. I don't know exact numbers because we are a regional school I just do one town. Anyhow we have about 70% Macs and the rest Dells a few HPs. And we have never had a security breach reported on a Mac and we have no antivirus or spyware software running on them. We do however get viruses on the PC laptops that leave the building. We have symantec antivirus on them. It's not a big deal when we find a problem we just re-image them. I have also had a rash of teachers clicking on the antivirus 2009 Fraudware popups and downloading trojans. Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool has seemed to remove it so far.

I also don't think anyone here has acted like a "Mac Fanboy" they use many OS's and have from experience come to conclusions. I'm happy you've had only good experiences with XP and so don't most people but this thread is becoming pointless. Maybe we should give it a rest.

[iccaros]

I agree,, too long and too circular..

we can bring it up again when someone reports there Mac is infected with a nasty virus on the Malware Removal Page..

Peace to all..

[hitest]

isteve, on Apr 26 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

I also don't think anyone here has acted like a "Mac Fanboy" they use many OS's and have from experience come to conclusions. I'm happy you've had only good experiences with XP and so don't most people but this thread is becoming pointless. Maybe we should give it a rest.

I agree, isteve. No one here acted like a fan boy. Parts of this discussion were interesting indeed.
I think that this discussion is now pointless. I am closing this thread.