50 Reasons to Switch From Mac to PC

A few days ago Chris Pirillo compiled a list of 50 Reasons to Switch from PC to Mac. After discussing the topic with him, he informed me no one took up his challenge and he was looking for someone to do it. Well, I decided I’d give it a shot. I came up the following list, I did my best to make the reasons as “real” as possible. Let me know what you think – I’m interested! Leave a comment. Oh, by the way, I’m not a Windows fan boy, nor am I an Apple hater. I use both platforms on a daily basis. This list is just a compilation of reasons I have not made the full switch yet to Mac. Well, without further ado, I present the list:

Edit: I should note the list is not in order of importance, it is simply just a collaboration of ideas.

50 Reasons to Switch From Mac to PC

1. Windows is currently the dominant gaming platform; this of course, is a no-brainer. Most games developed today are developed with Windows users in mind. I am not saying there are no games for the Mac; However, I am saying the majority of gaming is done on the PC platform.

2. Ever heard of building your own Mac? Not really, this is because Apple strictly controls what hardware is used in their machines, it is not an ‘Apple’ if it wasn’t built by Apple. Homegrown PCs that run Mac OS are strictly against the License Agreement.

3. Purchasing RAM from the manufacturer is reasonably priced. Apple over charges for RAM, they have been doing it forever. You are better off buying RAM from 3rd party company such as, Crucial.com. Whereas, on the PC side of things you do not have to buy RAM from a 3rd party company when you purchase your computer in order to save some money.

4. Free software is definitely more plentiful on the Windows side of the fence. While there are a number of free OSX applications, the ones that are decent usually require some kind of fee. However, I must admit there is a large development of applications for OSX starting to take off.

5. Upgradeability. PC’s are far more upgradeable than Mac’s. In order to have anywhere near the freedom in terms of upgrades on a Mac you essentially are required to buy a Mac Pro.

6. Windows is the Operating System for the masses, sure you can switch to Mac OSX, but why do you think Apple created Boot Camp? So you could use Windows. Obviously Apple knows that Windows isn’t going away, nor do they think they will be over taking the Windows Operating System (any time soon). If you are buying a Mac for School, remember that much of the software and technical support provided by colleges is geared towards Windows, so even if you buy a mac, you might end up having to pay for a copy of Windows to use via Boot Camp.

7. PC’s can perform a lot of the same tasks Mac’s take the credit for such as, video editing, photo editing, audio editing, etc. There are a number of excellent applications for Windows that do those same exact tasks. There is Sony Vegas for video editing, ACID and Sound Forge for audio editing, and there is Photoshop on the PC as well.

8. Microsoft Office. Microsoft Office is the premier office suite as of today, businesses use it, students use it, and just every day people use it. While there is a version of it for Mac OSX it does not stack up against the Windows version.

9. Most software is released first for Windows. Ever notice that when new software comes out or new services, the Windows versions are released and a few months after, the OSX versions are then released?

10. Mac OSX isn’t the only operating system with widgets. Vista has the sidebar which has a number of functional and useful gadgets.

11. Vista has an integrated CD/DVD burning system that works just as well as Disk Copy on OSX and it is integrated within folders, so a simple click can burn an entire folder to a disk.

12. Firefox loads and runs much faster on a PC it seems than on Mac OSX. However, this seems to apply for most applications that are cross-platform.

13. Audio and video codec support – it is definitely much easier to play certain video files on Windows than it is on Mac OSX.

14. Going back a bit to software selection, one of the best audio players (if not the best) for the computer is Windows only – foobar2000.

15. Now you can run Linux within Windows using a new Linux distribution called andLinux. By within Windows, I do not mean virtual machine, I’m talking within the actual Windows operating system.

16. There are far more Windows based communities on the web where you can give and receive tech help.

17. The XBOX 360 integrates seamlessly with Windows Vista. I don’t see that at all on the Mac.

18. Microsoft patches security holes fast. There are certain exceptions; however, for the most part Microsoft stays on top of the game when it comes to providing security patches.

19. On Windows you can easily reassign system folders to different drives such as, My Music, My Documents, My Videos, etc with a simple right-click and edit of the path. I have yet to find a way to do that with ease on OSX.

20. On Windows clicking the X actually means you’re closing the application (with a few exceptions). No need to worry about it still running after you click X, I still do not understand why this isn’t the case on OSX. Granted it’s not actually the OS itself, just the way the application works, it seems to be more common of an issue on OSX. Is it too much to expect that when I click X it terminates and closes the application?

21. Going back to getting support, it is much easier to find a computer technician who is Microsoft certified than is Apple certified. I would have to say this is a definite plus for new computer users.

22. The Microsoft Knowledge Base is an excellent source of information. It is very informative and resolves a number of Windows problems from common to not so common.

23. Active X controls aren’t always bad. While they are commonly associated with malware, they do have a lot of use in the corporate world.

24. Windows’ built-in FTP is much nicer than OSX’s in terms of ease-of-use and accessibility through Explorer. Granted there are definitely better 3rd party software applications out there, in terms of comparing this particular feature in both operating systems, Windows has it right.

25. Exchange servers for Email. In a business environment Exchange is the way to go – hands down. It is leaps and bounds ahead of Leopard’s SquirrelMail. Plus you have Outlook Web Access which is just phenomenal.

26. Window management. Windows in my opinion does a better job at managing the windows you have open on your desktop. They sit in your taskbar or system tray and are easily accessible when you need them.

27. Ctrl + Alt + Del – easy to find and press on a keyboard. In Mac OSX the Force Quit key combination is just strange. If I was not familiar with a Mac keyboard I would have no clue what to press.

28. Add/Remove Programs – simple, easy to use, point and click uninstall process. I’m aware that on a Mac most applications can be removed by just deleting them from the applications folder. However, some put files in the Library which are not removed if you delete them that why. Is it just me or is it weird you need to download a 3rd party application such as AppDelete or AppZapper to make sure you completely remove software from your Mac?

29. Hardware customizations – PC’s are definitely easier to customize in terms of what hardware you can use with them. On the Mac if Apple doesn’t support it, you’re essentially screwed driver/support wise.

30. The dock may look nice, but it is a poor alternative to the task bar. I always thought it looked excellent, until I had first hand experience with it and realized the way it handles applications in terms of on the desktop itself is rather obscure. It just seems all over the place and potentially distracting – it doesn’t sit on your desktop nearly as nicely as the task bar. Not to mention, ever move something off the Dock? What happens? It goes *poof* – not cool.

31. Microsoft Keyboards and Mice are excellent in my opinion so why not use them to their full potential? If you use Windows you can activate all of the features of the keyboard and mouse. On Mac OSX you cannot due to the software not working on the OSX platform.

32. PC selling companies such as Dell offer to come install your new computer for you, for a brand new computer user this is great. I haven’t seen that offered by Apple.

33. Uh… hello. Where’s my right-click? Why can’t Apple provide me with a mouse that has a right-click by default?

34. The Genius Bar… Well, it is really not so genius in my experience. They’re not that good. I realize this may vary depending on location and who you get, but I went twice and I wasn’t too impressed with their knowledge and support.

35. People say Windows is more susceptible to malware, viruses, and Trojans, well, it may be compared to OSX, but it sure doesn’t mean just because you run Windows you are going to get infected. This goes with any operating system though, each has vulnerabilities. So surf safe, don’t install random applications, and I guarantee you’ll be infection free without an Anti-virus or anti-malware application.

36. You have an iPod or an iPhone, guess what no problem. They work on Windows too!

37. Leopard’s Finder gives me fits when I try and search a network computer. It works sometimes, but mostly it doesn’t. Windows XP and Vista both have no issues picking up each other across the network.

38. Why do I have to customize the Finder toolbar to have it show the Path I’m currently at? And even then, it still doesn’t display it unless I click the button. Windows seems to have the Address bar by default and will always show you your current Path.

39. Call me crazy here, but in order to have access to Back to My Mac, you need to buy .Mac? Isn’t Remote Desktop free on Windows?

40. People always say – “well, OSX is based off UNIX, so you get the UNIX system under the hood” My response generally consists of “Well, great. Chances are most users will not even be using that portion of OSX.” So I like to cross that “benefit” off the list.

41. Windows Media Center – I haven’t seen anything like that on OSX (at least that is comparable). iTunes is nice, but it is not the same. Windows Media Center is just perfect for parties or just browsing your music and videos.

42. Apple is essentially an electronics company today. They are no longer Apple Computer. They are Apple, Inc. If that doesn’t tell you something about their motives for the future I don’t know what does. Microsoft has been sticking to the software side of things since they were started. Of course, they have spread out a bit in terms of XBOX and some computer peripherals, but their main focus is and always has been software. I see dedication when I look at that. Apple well, I’m not really sure what they will be doing in 10-15 years from now.

43. Steve Jobs will not be around forever. I don’t know who will replace him and when that time comes will they be able to keep up the good work?

44. Context menus – This is something I’ve only really seen in Windows. I can add context menus, edit them, etc. On OSX, I don’t see that ability so much.

45. Inconsistent updates on OSX, I don’t know about you guys, but I like my regularly scheduled updates. Makes things simple, gets you into a habit.

46. Backup. Sure OSX has Time Machine which is nice, but up until Time Capsule was released and I’m sure not sure of this as I haven’t used Time Capsule, I have not found a way to use Time Machine with a network drive. On Windows my network drive is found and connected no issues and I can backup my data easily with the Backup Files Wizard on Vista. Time Machine is nice, but in reality here, you really don’t need to back up EVERYTHING. Just your data files should suffice for most people. However, in Vista Ultimate the Backup Files Wizard will allow you to backup EVERYTHING if you so desire.

47. Windows Vista ReadyBoost, I haven’t seen anything like that on OSX. Granted the technology is not there yet, but the theory behind it intrigues me.

48. A small but handy feature in Windows Vista – check boxes for when you’re selecting files. How many times have you been in the process of selecting a number of files and you accidentally forgot to hold down Ctrl and everything was suddenly deselected? The check boxes feature allows you to tick files/folders so that doesn’t happen anymore. Where is this feature on OSX?

49. The Windows Event Viewer. Ever start troubleshooting a problem and end up checking the Event Viewer for answers? I have. On OSX, sure you have the Console which logs stuff, but I haven’t found anything comparable to the Windows Event Viewer which is a beyond useful troubleshooting tool.

50. Alright, here we are #50. Last one. So where’s my Print Screen key so I can capture this accomplishment? Oh yeah, I need to open Grab or something on OSX. I don’t really like that.

I would like to thank Chris Pirillo for presenting me with this challenge, Allan Jude for re-wording a few things, and Mandy for proof reading.

For those who do not read all of the comments:

If you are curious as to how I really feel, you should read this new post:

Apple vs OEM – Follow Up to Mac to PC Switch

As I state in the post, it was not easy, nor do I feel they are all excellent reasons. However, the point of the list was to attempt to compile something rather than nothing at all; while I agree it would have better as a shorter list with only the best reasons, Chris was looking for 50. I’d be curious to see if anyone could come up with additional/new reasons. If you can feel free to post them.

By the way, the post did exactly what I had intended it to do.


— Jeff Weisbein

Jeff is the founder & CEO of BestTechie. He has over 10 years of experience working with technology and building businesses. He loves to travel and listen to music.

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  1. Jeff,
    Well done my friend, Well done.

    #18 – Security patches: while MS seems to deliver their patches early, it is disturbing that they have to do this so frequently.

    #32 – Apple has phone help I believe for the first 90 days and for those folks that are in major metro areas you can take your rig up to the genius bar at the apple stores. While this is not the same as Dell coming to your home to install your computer, Apple does offer some assistance.
    Isn’t there a fee for a Dell licensed pro to come install your computer? It isn’t an actual Dell employee dispatched from the Dell headquarters.

    #33 – The right click. I am guessing that in the early days of development, Apple built their hardware to look different (mission accomplished) and it looks like that aesthetics of their mouse was coupled into this design theory. I have yet to figure out why Apple does not bundle a 2 button mouse with their hardware.

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  2. If you don’t need a reason, you are probably a PC user.


  3. You forgot an important one – Apple users are 99% fanboys with more money than brains :)

    I would also place the ‘hardware and software locking’ at the very top of the list.

  4. radioprotector says:


    50. Alright, here we are #50. Last one. So where’s my Print Screen key so I can capture this accomplishment? Oh yeah, I need to open Grab or something on OSX. I don’t really like that.

    Cmd + Shift + 3 takes a screenshot and saves it to the desktop
    Cmd + Shift + 4 allows you to select a certain part of the screen to take a picture of. and puts it on the desktop.


  5. Some of them are true, some less so… Not a convincing list, though.

    Yes, die-hard Apple fan here, with -lots- of experience using Windows [actually, from DOS 2 to Vista].

    I appreciate people who don’t want to switch to the Mac, no skin off of my nose, I’m just very happy I don’t have to worry about all the nonsense in Windows [and there is plenty of it] at home.

    No system, not even OS X is perfect, I just find it extremely enjoyable to work with a Mac.

    The old software chestnut: there is now more Mac software available than ever and some of it [not all, wouldn’t be reasonable to claim] is very, Very, VERY good [iLife, iWork, Library, TextMate, Scrivener, to name just five]. People are building ever better applications for the Mac. And more games, if you like them, are coming available.

    But: if OS X is not your thing, hey, live like you want to live. I’m not going to try and talk you out of it.

    Oh, and about nr. 50: it takes more than just the key, but there are several options for taking screen shots, they work great, you just need to grab some more keys :).

    Peace, brothers.


  6. I found most of the reasons lame, I won’t bother with deconstruction. I recently switched to a Mac and my life got a whole lot easier in dealing with my computer. I’m not a fan boy, I’m not an early adopter. I’m pragmatic about my time.


  7. While I enjoyed reading the points you’ve made, I don’t think you have presented your argument in a persuasive manner. If I already own a Mac and use a Mac, why would I want to switch to windows? Because my iPod or iPhone works on it too? If I was “raised” on a Mac, wouldn’t Ctrl-Alt-Del feel just as strange to me?

    The arguments you make wouldn’t necessarily make someone switch from Mac to PC. Perhaps if they were buying their first computer, yes, but not if they already own a Mac (And yes, I know the same applies to PC users switching to Macs).


  8. I love my PC. Running Windows Vista and have had no problems.


  9. #33: I’m pretty sure Macs ship with a 2 button mouse now. The ones the other folks have at work have left and right click, and scroll wheel. There’s no split between the buttons, but if you press on the right side, you get a right-click menu.


  10. Entertaining list. As Family IT, I get to slap all the boxen around–Winblows, Mackkk and Linyucks–my assessment is that they all get the job done and are all equal pains in the posterior. INHO, operating systems are not religions thank you very much. Over to you, Chet…


  11. 11 – You can burn folders on the Mac as well
    22 – so is the apple kbase. in fact, i’ve had much better luck finding answers on apple than ms
    25 – SquirrelMail is not an Apple product
    26 – Dock and Expose work great for me
    27 – right click on the application in the dock. it’s the last option in the menu if the application isn’t responding.
    30 – it’s an alias/shortcut, so it doesn’t really matter. kinda like a quicklaunch button in windows
    31 – i hate ms keyboards and mice. the keyboards are big and clunky and the mice are too large for my hands.
    33 – as far as a i know, all Apple desktop machines except the mac mini comes with mighty mouse, which has a right button
    39 – VNC is free on the Mac, as is the screen sharing component of iChat. As far as I know, Remote Desktop doesn’t work through a firewall unless you configure the firewall. Back to my Mac does.
    40 – the scientific and university communities do
    41 – FrontRow. Not as powerful as Windows Media Center, but it gets the job done.
    49 – Activity Monitor is useful as well
    50 – cmd-shift-3. been there since at least System 7.


  12. What a lame list.
    A couple of them are ok, but overall? Lame. Some of these reasons are also very poorly informed.

    Nice try, but you came up a little short there.


  13. If you are curious as to how I really feel, you should read this new post:

    http://www.besttechie.net/2008/02/22/apple-vs-oem-follow-up-to-mac-to-pc-switch/

    As I state in the post, it was not easy, nor do I feel they are all excellent reasons. However, the point of the list was to attempt to compile something rather than nothing at all. I’d be curious to see if anyone could come up with additional/new reasons. If you can feel free to post them.

    By the way, the post did what I had intended it to do ;)

    Jeff


  14. Hate all you like he is right. Yes Mac can do that “as well” so can PC. But for obvious reasons the PC has a LOT of advantages.

    All Mac is good for is compensating for small penis size.


  15. Well, I’ll give you credit. This list is definitely better than nothing. like, way better than nothing. No really. This something is better than nothing.


  16. I like the list. There are reasons though for my using both systems.

    As a Graphic Designer, Mac’s handle the high end needs of what i do better that Windows does. But thats a work only need for the most part.

    At home I use PC’s for the most part, gaming and such. Thanks for the list.


  17. Fascinating comparative arguments. I suspect that Apple’s core loyalty group are the graphic designers that have been using the Mac since before XP, or even W2K. The rest of the barking fans are just hipsters. I like FreeBSD myself, but almost all my work is done via MS Windows XP. I cannot imagine working on Apple — unless my boss provided me with all the software needed for the job. With a PC one can do anything, add anything, customize anything. I grouse that I cannot work with the BSD/GnuLinux machines all the time because the screen graphics are still inferior to the driver graphics written for the MS Windows platform; I think that I would grow too angry for words was I constricted to the proprietary world of Apple.( I would like to experience the development platform on Apple, being curious about Objective-C.)


  18. Okay, some of these are valid points, BUT I think a few of these don’t show an advantage either way, or relate to the end user, not the hardware/software :

    1. A good use for BootCamp.
    3. You’ve bought RAM from Microsoft before? So either way, it’s “third-party” RAM.
    5. MACs may be harder to upgrade, but if you want to buy a new one, it’s easier to migrate to, and older Apple laptops retain their value.
    6. Depends on what school you go to, and what you’re studying.
    7. None of those programs are free. iMovie and GarageBand come installed on all MACs. Also, iMovie, iPhoto, iDVD and GarageBand can all share files/elements of projects between themselves – a real time-saver, and something that makes creating projects easier for the average user, working right out of the box. Photoshop is cross-platform, but that doesn’t make PCs any better, even @ best.
    10. I don’t see PCs being better, just another tie here.
    11. MAC/PC tie again here. I don’t see one being clearly better.
    12. Firefox has never loaded faster on my PC. It can also handle many more windows for much longer periods of time then it can on my PC.
    17. Its an XBox. So? Besides, look @ Boot Camp.
    25. I have Outlook with Office for Mac. I don’t remember if its standard with Windows, or you still have to buy Office to get it.
    27. Force quit is on the menu. If you use a Mac, you’ll pick up the keystroke for it anyways. Its not a hardware comparison, just a comparison of habbits of the end user.
    28. Preference of the end user. I’m not a huge fan of the old Apple keyboards, but the one on my MacBook Pro is really good.
    32. How do you “install” a computer? With the mac, remove from box. Plug in keyboard/mouse/monitor, off you go. Three connections, all simple to make. Its in the instructions. If you can use the computer, you’re smart enough to set it up on your own.
    33. Any USB mouse with two buttons works with functioning right-click.
    36. I repeat. They created BootCamp for a reason. Now- Apple has applications that work on Mac and PC. Let’s start seeing the reverse happen. . . . .
    42. With the size of Microsoft, and anti-trust lawsuits, I’m not sure I’d be too sure where they will be in 15 years either.
    43. Microsoft always does good work? There’s nothing that says Steve Jobs has to be head of Apple to make it successfull.

    Okay, these last 4 are really just my opinion on these issues :

    19. I don’t know about computers with more then one hard drive, I’ve only got a MacBook Pro, but with a computer with only one hard drive, why would you ever want to? I find that the location of my default music/photo/video files is much better on OSX then on Vista/XP.
    21. Maybe not as many new Apple users need this tech support because Apple has more control over what hardware goes into their computers, and they work right away?
    47. If Vista wasn’t such a resource-hog, you wouldn’t need this.
    50. MAC has better screen capture. Part or the entire screen. Granted, it’s not one-click, but I’ve gotten much more use being able to capture parts of the screen and print them later – like relevant parts of train schedules, google Maps views, etc.


  19. 51.OSX is slow as hell.
    52.Don’t forget to eject a thumbdrive before you unplug it, something that you usually don’t have to do with windows.


  20. Don’t agree if you want stability stick with APPLE. If you want selection, virus, malmare, spyware etc stick with Windows. If you want something that is cool, fast, runs the start of the art OS get and apple or get yourself a intel based computer and load *nix on it.


  21. Valid points and you see the reason why PCs are for the masses and MAC is for more artistic types. As you say things does not just have to work it should look good at it too. the displays , the sounds,the looks on the MAC is anyday better.


  22. Not a Microsoft fanboy here, but wanted to reply to the last two:

    @Jeff Norris
    If you’re a competent user, you’ll have no trouble with malware or spyware. My XP machine has always run great and has never crashed or BSOD’d.

    @Ujjawal
    I agree that most Macs look better than pre-packaged Dells or HPs. But, since anyone can build a Windows or nix box anyway they want from scratch, you can’t definitively say “Macs always look and sound better.” Sometimes I run my PC through a 50in Samsung Plasma TV. I’d say that’s better than most Apple displays.

    Anyway, I’ve used nix, Windows, and OSX extensively, and the first two meet all my needs.


  23. @ q:
    51: Have you ever used OSX. It’s definitely not as slow as Vista is with the same system specifications
    52: If you haven’t been using “Safetly Remove Hardware” on Windows XP or Vista then you’re just as liable to lose your data.

    These lists are always a real waste of time. Each person has his/her own needs. Should I buy a manual or an automatic car? Well that depends! You’re going to get input all over, it just depends on your needs.


  24. Great job man … you had me at reason 33:

    apple click!!! WTF!!! what a waste of life.


  25. 1. True
    2. True
    3. PC manufacturers overcharge for RAM too and you CAN use 3rd party RAM in Macs.
    4. There is more third-party software on PCs. However, I’ve found this to be somewhat of a handicap. If I’m looking for a specific utility, I have to wade through 50 versions of the same thing to find one that works decently. The Mac utilities are far fewer, so it’s easier to find one that works for your needs. If there isn’t a Mac utility, you can always use the Windows utility by booting into Windows too…
    5. True
    6. No point was made in the article…
    7. True, however Windows doesn’t have decent color matching software built into the operating system which makes color matching your screen to your printer more difficult by having to rely on third-party utilities.
    8. Office for OS X has more features than Office for Windows. For example: The ability to export PowerPoint shows as QuickTime movies.
    9. True
    10. True but it’s not a reason to switch from Mac to Windows
    11. True but it’s not a reason to switch from Mac to Windows
    12. True, but you’re really reaching…
    13. Which ones? I have no problem using Perian or VLC to play any video files
    14. That is opinion only — keep it unbiased please
    15. You can run many Linux programs natively in OS X without using “andLinux”
    16. True
    17. True. A Microsoft product interfaces better with a Microsoft product. Duh.
    18. Apple does too. Not a reason to switch.
    19. Why would you want to? It’s easy to create an “alias” (or ‘symbolic link’ in UNIX parlance) in Mac OS X to do the same thing. Just create the folder and Option+Command drag the folder to your home folder.
    20. True — this is an issue for Apple people as well but is it a reason to switch?
    21. True
    22. True, though Apple has an excellent knowledge base as well, and Apple stores with geniuses staffed at all times. I think Apple wins this point.
    23. You’ve got to be kidding me. I’m not giving you this point at all.
    24. False; use the Finder to explore FTP sites and you’ll understand.
    25. False; Office for Mac has an Exchange client and the web mail works on Mac as well.
    26. Opinion. Keep it unbiased.
    27. Opinion. Keep it unbiased. Since when does CTRL+ALT+DEL make more sense than CMD+OPT+ESC?
    28. False. Lack of knowledge here. Mac applications are self-contained, not requiring libraries in most cases. Those that do come with an uninstaller.
    29. True, but isn’t this essentially the same as #2?
    30. Opinion. Keep it unbiased.
    31. What are you talking about? Apple keyboards are fully utilized on Macs. Microsoft keyboards are fully utilized on Microsoft products. Huh?
    32. Apple doesn’t provide this service because it isn’t necessary. Think about it.
    33. False. They do.
    34. Opinion. Keep it unbiased. I’ve had a few failures with the genius bar, but far fewer failures than I’ve had with Microsoft’s technical support over the years.
    35. False. You are nearly guaranteed to get some sort of bug on any Internet-connected Windows computer, even if you’re careful and buy LOTS of extra (read: expensive) software that you don’t need on a Mac for the same level of security.
    36. This is not a reason to switch.
    37. False. Since Microsoft ditched NetBEUI, Windows machines have a hard time seeing each other on a peer-to-peer network. Apple uses Bonjour (mDNS in the UNIX world) to locate other network resources.
    38. False. You have to set a preference in Windows to see the full path in the address bar.
    39. False. Remote desktop functionality works without purchasing .Mac. The .Mac subscription facilitates the same functionality as “GoTo My PC”.
    40. False. The security features of OS X are the reason its security is stronger than Windows boxes. That is used by everyone.
    41. Opinion. Keep it unbiased.
    42. What is your point here?
    43. Opinion. Keep it unbiased.
    44. Editing context menus in Windows is incredibly difficult, most of the time having to modify the registry. In OS X, it’s also difficult but not nearly as difficult.
    45. Opinion. Keep it unbiased. Macs don’t have a schedule because stuff doesn’t break as frequently.
    46. Lack of knowledge. You can do what you mentioned.
    47. You’re comparing a theoretical feature of Windows to Mac OS X? That is not a reason to switch.
    48. True. That is nice. :)
    49. Event Viewer = Console. These two tools are equal in power.
    50. False. There are several key combinations to select the entire screen, a windowed area, or a specific window. Additionally, we can put the screen grab to the clipboard or out to any file format (such as the default “PNG”).


    • “22. True, though Apple has an excellent knowledge base as well, and Apple stores with geniuses staffed at all times. I think Apple wins this point.”

      Don’t forget the “Concierge” and “Mac Specialists.” Pretty names for $5/hour sales clerks that know little yet pretend to be “Geniuses.” The Apple stores are similar to third-grade art classes when the teacher is out of the room.

  26. Matt Sherif says:


    Nicely done, did you mention that the administrator account is WAY easier to use in Windows than in Mac?


  27. An interesting list; thought-provoking at least, though a lot comes from lack of exposure, lack of knowledge, or is not really a valid “switching” point. I realize you’re stretching to 50, but even so…

    I REALLY, however, wish that “one button canard” would finally be put to rest. It wasn’t valid back in OS8 (when the iMac popularized the USB port), because just HOW many people were completely satisfied with the mouse their OEM gave them, and didn’t get their own at some point or another? Any multi-button mouse worked fine in MacOS. It also hasn’t been true even by default on all Macs for the past few years, once the Mighty Mouse was adopted. (Dumb name, but only “one button” mechanical design for down-clicking. It’s a multi-button mouse, with even side-clicks… it just doesn’t look like it.) Even the MacBooks gained “right-clicking” by means of a two-finger click shortly afterward.

    Seriously, though… who HASN’T used their own mouse of choice in the past decade? Worked just fine. (Even previous to USB adoption Macs were using PS/2 mice and keyboards, but I’m guessing some features may not have played nicely with all manufacturers in all OS’es.)


  28. How many people get excited when it’s time to use Windows?

    (I can’t think of any)


  29. Good argument, but I really think what it all comes down to of whether or not your a “mac or pc”, it just depends on what you’re used to. Most people don’t switch over a few reasons, so show me a major fault and that’ll do it, but until then, i think i’m pretty content.


  30. I found both good and bad points about your list, much like Chris Pirillo’s list. Overall, both have a lot of truth’ in them.

    My wife uses a Mac, two of them in fact. For me, I only need three reasons to keep using my PC.

    1. Price. Comparable PCs are hundreds of dollars cheaper.

    2. Games. I like to play more than just WoW.

    3. Specialized Software. Most specialized software is PC only.

    Those three reasons cannot be refuted by Mac users.

  31. tractordriver88 says:


    Excellent! I agree with most of what you have to say!

    One I would like to add:
    The Eject buttons on external CD and DVD drives do not work. You must eject from the finder.

    What I hate more than anything about macs is not the hardware itself, but the people who use it. They have an ego issue, like they are a better person because they use mac.
    Well, I’ve had my time on both OS and I still prefer Windows by a long shot!

  32. Guacamole says:


    I am sorry Jeff, I really have to disagree with your basis here. I am going to be level headed, this isn’t intended to put down your ideas or opinions, instead I will briefly point to a few things I feel are obviously given weight and seem in reality meaningless. I know you may have struggled with coming up with the number ’50’.

    I guess it is an arbitrary number, however, seems to me there really aren’t 50 one way or the other in solid terms. So, that being said here goes. First let me qualify myself, I was a windows user for umpteen years, roughly 20 to be exact, I had a Dos 286 laptop that I used to BBS with (for those who weren’t born yet it means Bulletin Board Service), with the very first modems dialing up at if I remember right 9,000 baud, with 14.4 K baud following and staying for quite awhile (It seems unconscionable today) but that is what it was lol Ok, so about three months ago I bought an Iphone and that really introduced me to Apple products, which obviously had escaped me all these years.

    I was impressed with its functionality when it came to using the web, email, video, music AND a phone. It’s ease of use amazed me. With that I took a closer look at the Mac (reason being I had bought a Vista HP Laptop and was having all kinds of issues with it way too numerous to get into here). So, I find the MacBookPro I bought (the heads on comparison in the HP family was about the same price within 200 dollars, not enough to steer me there especially with all the trouble I was having) I find the MacBookPro to be: easy to use, very powerful, starts up fast and shuts down even faster, I mean within seconds it’s down, and within 20 seconds it is ready to go.

    I hardly ever use the keyboard shortcuts as I used to on Windows because everything is so easy to find compared to Windows. Once you get to know where they are you find it is all very intuitive. For example to force quit all you have to do is click the apple icon and it is in the list (at least on Leopard it is), then if you have the cursor in the program all you have to do is hit command Q to force quit.

    While it is true I use windows for some things believe it or not it is two primarily, notepad to edit server files which works the best and fastest (which I believe I can get used to on the Mac but for now I use windows since I have it sitting there, and the other is a great tool for editing videos since it is free and so easy to use and no it isn’t windows media player, that is always hard to use. It is a freeware I found that isn’t advertised for editing but has that feature and I find it to be really useful.

    Other than that, I really don’t have a need for the machine and someday will completely go away from Windows if I don’t install it on the Mac beforehand which I am really trying not to do. While it may be true there are a lot of things you can do with available programs for Windows, I largely find them to be annoying and a waste of time overall, not to say there aren’t some smaller things but to be honest, I could live without.

    Now, since the Windows platform is here to stay I guess I have to deal with them but to be really really honest, I wish I didn’t have to. I find Mac support to be awesome, yes I paid for it but the PC OEM’s cannot offer the same, who would want to pay for support from India or the Philippines they are all hooked into? With Apple, it is someone in California you speak to EVERY time. Worst that can happen which is not a bad thing is talking to Canada employees.

    HP has India and the Philippines on the front line and even if it escalates to California they are horrible. They never fixed one single issue only made them worse, all they did was aggravate me Bottom line, I am much more impressed with Apple than I ever was with Microsoft, HP, Dell, Gateway or whoever, not to mention Apples leanings towards open source and promoting such, to me makes them the clear choice and did I mention great products? Now, some of what Apple ‘claims’ is naturally overboard.

    Tell me Microsoft does not make claims that are overboard? Gates says the ‘magic’ is in the software? Well if that is the case then they dished some ‘black magic’ to my Vista machine, which I am stuck with. I rest my case.

    No fanboy here either of either party, I find OS X to be the much much better of the two platforms. I do not spend nearly as much time spyware scanning and maintaining the Mac which I really have learned to love. I found I used to waste so much time before. Also, open source which is really awesomely alive within the Mac communities and supported by Apple directly. The same cannot be said of MS or their minions.

    Respectfully,

    Guacamole


  33. You fail to mention that if you use a pc and deal with audio you will no matter what run into latency issues because of the limitations of the pc’s ram and how window’s uses it. You dont by a mac for games thats just an ignornat statement u dont buy a Ferrari for the gas maliege you buy it because its fast and a superior car with great handling. Real audio programs run on Mac or Linux only because pc and directx audio especially in vista is horrible and cant render audio or video in real time. Pc’s are just horrible at ram


  34. The only reason Macs are better at designing is because that’s what they’re built for. That is there intended pupose. Most retail pre-built Windows PCs arn’t built for graphics design. Or atleast intensive designing projects. Durr. Now a custom built Windows PC can match the best Mac PC if not better and can do everything a Mac can do and more.


  35. @Bob: it’s called ASIO–welcome to the 2000’s


  36. 3. Macs uses their RAM more effectively than PCs. In PCs, it takes 2 GB from everything to run right, but in Macs, it only takes 1 GB.
    7. Yes, it’s true that PCs can perform editing as well as Macs. But Macs are so much easier to use when editing videos. (Not sure about audio and such, never worked with that) Have you ever compared Windows Movie Maker with iMovie. Windows Movie Maker sucks.
    10. Yeah, and Vista sucks (I should know I use it and repair it)
    17. In what world. I try to connect Vista with my 360 all the time, and they connect, but information never works properly on my 360.
    18. True. But my Windows laptop has to update every day… That is time everyday that can be spent do other things.
    28. Windows has the same issue. Even when you uninstall programs from Windows, files are left in the Program Files folder.
    32. PC selling companies such as Dell also install a lot of c**p on your computer that you’ll never use.
    37. Windows makes you jump through hoops of fire to discover another Windows computer.
    39. Last I checked, you have to buy XP Pro, or Vista Business or Ultimate to use Remote Desktop. Get it right
    41. Two Words….Front Row
    42. Microsoft is only still interested in software, because Google is. It’s naive to think that Microsoft is still on the software tract for any other reason. All Microsoft cares about is competing with Google.
    47. C**p feature. Never works.
    48. Don’t know what in the world you’re talking about. I’ve never seen them.
    49. I am a computer repair technician, and I have never used this.


  37. 5. Upgradeability. PC’s are far more upgradeable than Mac’s. In order to have anywhere near the freedom in terms of upgrades on a Mac you essentially are required to buy a Mac Pro.

    I had to disagree with this one. Mac gets upgrade on an average two years, while Windows get upgrade on an average of 5 years… Yes both Mac and Windows do get updates whenever they are available, but Mac updates are much less and faster while Windows Updates are a lot and longer in updating.

    6. Windows is the Operating System for the masses, sure you can switch to Mac OSX, but why do you think Apple created Boot Camp? So you could use Windows. Obviously Apple knows that Windows isn’t going away, nor do they think they will be over taking the Windows Operating System (any time soon). If you are buying a Mac for School, remember that much of the software and technical support provided by colleges is geared towards Windows, so even if you buy a mac, you might end up having to pay for a copy of Windows to use via Boot Camp.

    It is true. I have to admit that I have to depend on Windows at times because not all things would work on Mac, so the boot camp is a great idea when you need Windows for a short time. I can use Mac most of the time while I can use Windows via the boot camp whenever needed.

    8. Microsoft Office. Microsoft Office is the premier office suite as of today, businesses use it, students use it, and just every day people use it. While there is a version of it for Mac OSX it does not stack up against the Windows version.

    That is crap. Mac do have a several open source Office suite and they can read MsOffice files, but it may not perfect but it can be done. I use OpenOffice.org, and it works great… perhaps, a bit of adjustment work.

    10. Mac OSX isn’t the only operating system with widgets. Vista has the sidebar which has a number of functional and useful gadgets.

    Hello! Mac was the first who created widgets. Vista borrow that idea.

    12. Firefox loads and runs much faster on a PC it seems than on Mac OSX. However, this seems to apply for most applications that are cross-platform.

    I don’t think it does make any difference, really. I use Windows at work and at home on my laptop and I use Mac at home. I notice that my Firefox works better and faster on Mac than Windows. Maybe it is because at our work, we have a strong firewall causing its slowness, but at home, I think it works faster than Windows Vista’s Firefox on my laptop.

    25. Exchange servers for Email. In a business environment Exchange is the way to go – hands down. It is leaps and bounds ahead of Leopard’s SquirrelMail. Plus you have Outlook Web Access which is just phenomenal.

    Well, that is the next patch that Apple is working on for the new version, Snow Leopard. Right now it works with new iPhone 3G. That is the beginning.

    27. Ctrl + Alt + Del – easy to find and press on a keyboard. In Mac OSX the Force Quit key combination is just strange. If I was not familiar with a Mac keyboard I would have no clue what to press.

    Learn it! You will find it very easy to use on Mac.

    28. Add/Remove Programs – simple, easy to use, point and click uninstall process. I’m aware that on a Mac most applications can be removed by just deleting them from the applications folder. However, some put files in the Library which are not removed if you delete them that why. Is it just me or is it weird you need to download a 3rd party application such as AppDelete or AppZapper to make sure you completely remove software from your Mac?

    Whoo hoo for you. Actually I find it opposite. Mac does a very easy way to add or remove… What Mac will do, just drag that application and drop in the Trash. And Empty it. It is gone. In Add and Remove app, I have to wait for a bit for the list to show up, and I have to click remove and then more clicks ahead, then wait for a bit, letting Windows do the dirty work. That is like maybe 3 to 5 minutes, while you just drag and drop in Trash, it takes less than one minute.

    31. Microsoft Keyboards and Mice are excellent in my opinion so why not use them to their full potential? If you use Windows you can activate all of the features of the keyboard and mouse. On Mac OSX you cannot due to the software not working on the OSX platform.

    Well, I had no problem. I use Microsoft keyboard and mouse for my Mac and it works fine. I dont see a problem really.

    39. Call me crazy here, but in order to have access to Back to My Mac, you need to buy .Mac? Isn’t Remote Desktop free on Windows?

    I can access my Mac anywhere remotely and it is free. It is called http://www.logmein.com. It is easy.

    I hope I am not here to bash your entry. I am a computer geek and I know Windows for a long time. I am not very happy with Windows lately, it gets worse, and worse. It is not very stable. I always had problems with Windows for many reasons. After I get Mac, I had no PROBLEM with that for the last two years. No crashes so far, that I know of. Yes, it is because Mac is built based on Unix. That is why Unix is very stable. If I had to choose which Windows version, I would say either 98 or XP. Vista sucks. Very disappointed in it. I have it on my laptop right now. I hope Microsoft will come to the senses that they need a lot of work on Windows… and hope that their next version will get better. In the conclusion, I would not consider to switch from Mac to PC. I think I will stay with Mac for a long time, for sure.

    Oh, one more thing, they just find a way to get Mac OSX work on PCs now. So basically, you could build a PC from scratch and install Mac OSX. :-) Is that wonderful?


  38. I have been in this business a long time and one thing I know is that it is not wise to not learn something that is starting to become a dominant player in this market.

    I recently moved to Florida and decided to buy my mother a computer who has never used one before so that we could communicate better than just by phone. I just recently had to deal with several friends machines deeply impacted with spyware and malware (once you are plagued by these problems anything is better) so I thought about about it, did some research and went ahead and bought her a iMac.

    I had no experience and so I first a a Mac guy sit down with me for about 2 hours showing me some really cool stuff with iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, iChat, etc. Everything just worked seemlessly together. I got excited and went right back out and bought another one for myself. Since then I have also bought some for my friends so that we can all iChat now that I have moved.

    I remember several big pushes in the military. We switched our mainframes over to HP Unix, we pushed for Novell Netware ( I even got certified), the push for Windows NT, etc. Now there is beginning to be a big push for iPhones and Macs.

    I have only been using my Mac for about 6 months now and I enjoy the heck out of it. The best way to switch to Mac is to have a digital camera ready with some photos, a camcorder ready with some footage, some music CDs, a couple burnable DVDs and CDRs, and then have a true Mac guy sit down with you and tell you what to do. Not show you, but make you do it. In 2 or 3 hours you will be hooked.

    I loved it so much that money was no longer an issue and let me tell you why. I had a beefed up PC for video editing and it was a nightmare after nightmare trying to get things done. I put about $3200 into that machine by the time I was done and was able to get it to work. I like it okay now but prefer the Mac out of the box so much more that I gave away most of that expensive hardware and software to friends. I gave away Adobe Premiere Pro 2, Adobe DVD Encore 1.5, Matrox RT.100 card, ATI 9700, ATI 8500DV, 120 FPS 4 input video capturing card, and a few other things. In the end I am mostly happy with even just using iDVD, iPhoto, iMovie, and iDVD because the ending result is really good and actually cheaper. But right now I am getting my first experiences with Final Cut Studio and so far I really like it.

    I am not a big Mac guy. I am new to it. I prefer Mac over the PC but if someone asks me what is the best platform they should buy, I still ask “What do you want to use it for?” and their answer will be what I base my opinion on. I have a digital camera, a digital camcorder, I like having backups of all my important data, I like being able to make home movies into DVDs with nice quality ending result that are cheap and easy, I like the fact that if I do a high CPU usage process like a video render that it can borrow processor time from other Macs to complete the process faster, etc. etc.

    For me, Mac just works for the things I love to do and it does it so much better. For once in the history of computing, proprietary stands out in front. Those willing to accept change, will be those still on their “A Game”.


  39. Oh, I want to say one more thing about “Windows is the Operating System for the masses”. The masses are not always right. If you do not want to spend too much for an iMac do what I did for friends. I have found good prices online for used machines. Last week I bought a friend a 20″ iMac which was only 8 months old with the intel duo core processor, ram was upgraded to 2 gigs, and the hard drive was 250gigs. I got this for $675. Before that I got nearly the same version but the 17″ model for $575. They both looked like brand new.


  40. 99% of the stuff on this list was pointless like the thing about keyboard shortcuts and most of the stuff you talk about has now been fix or added if you did a new list some of the things you talked about would have to be removed this was more of a mindless rant and makes you sound like a Microsoft fanboy but im sure your not just this makes me think you are and that you dont like Mac OS which im sure you do


  41. Counter-Arguments:
    Reason 1: Yeah. Boot Camp solves the gaming problem.
    Reason 2: That’s actually a benefit. Since the O/S was made to run on Apple hardware you know it’s going to work. No need to search for compatible hardware pieces.
    Reason 3: Apple’s RAM is more expensive because it’s the only one of it’s kind.
    Reason 4: Once again, if you really need that software run Boot Camp.
    Reason 5: This is because Macs don’t need to be upgraded nearly as often as PCs. My 9-year-old-never-upgraded eMac (I use an iMac now though) runs about as good as my friend’s 3-year-old-upgraded-once PC.
    Reason 6: You’re right, Apple knows Windows isn’t going to disappear, because people are too ignorant to make the switch from PC to Mac. An example of an IQ greater than 95.
    Reason 7: Ok, you get ACID and Sony Vegas, but you have to buy them. We get them free with our Macs.
    Reason 8: If you really need that software, run it through bootcamp. It solves at least 75% of the Windows VS Mac arguments (at least 85% of which are about gaming)
    Reason 9: Not always. There is a company, Spiderweb Software , that always releases the mac version of their software at least a month before the windows version.
    Reason 10: I’m pretty sure Mac OS X had widgets first.
    Reason 11: Oh noes, we gotta drag it into the empty disk then open it and click burn!!! OMG ONE MORE STEP!!!
    Reason 12: Ok, I don’t even care about this issue.
    Reason 13: Don’t care about this either. I can run videos fine.
    Reason 14: One word: Bootcamp.
    Reason 15: Bootcamp can be used to install linux. Now, that’s not within the O/S, but it isn’t a virtual machine either.
    Reason 16: We need less tech help. I didn’t need help with my eMac for 9 years (the whole time I owned it).
    Reason 17: I don’t need to hear about Xbox. Besides, Xbox was MADE BY MICROSOFT! OF COURSE IT RUNS BETTER WITH MICROSOFT’S O/S! (sorry for all caps)
    Reason 18: We don’t have (many) security holes.
    Reason 19: Open up Terminal, and type “open (path of your folder).” Voila!
    Reason 20: First off, closing a window and quitting the application are two separate things. Secondly, if I close a window and it stays running I don’t have to go through my folders to the App just to open a new window.
    Reason 21: Once again, we barley have need for tech support (as far as I’m concerned), and when we do need help we can drive our Macs to the Apple Store.
    Reason 22: Again, we’ve got less problems than windows.
    Reason 23: http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.13/13.06/ActiveXControlsforMac/index.html
    Reason 24: I don’t use a FTP server, so I’m not concerned about this issue.
    Reason 25: I assume this is done through software, so I again proclaim: Bootcamp!
    Reason 26: If you hit that orange button in the top left corner of the window, it zooms down to the dock. Problem solved.
    Reason 27: It’s technically “harder” for me to press Crtl-Alt-Delete than it is for me to press Alt-Apple-Esc. Maybe because for Alt-Apple-Esc I only need a finger and a thumb, but for Crtl-alt-delete I need to use three fingers. Why waste (body) energy?
    Reason 28: Just go to the library (folder, not building) and delete whatever it is!
    Reason 29: Macs don’t use drivers, and why wouldn’t Apple support their own hardware?
    Reason 30: I could say the Task Bar is a poor alternative to the Dock, but that doesn’t make it any more correct or incorrect, does it? That’s 100% personal opinion about which is better.
    Reason 31: Microsoft Keyboards and Mice work on macs. Without the software. Plug it in and you’re ready to use it.
    Reason 32: So, you want help installing your new mac, eh? Is it really that hard to plug it into a power outlet, along with plugging the keyboard and mouse into the computer?
    Reason 33: MightyMouse, the mouse being supplied with all new macs, has a right click. You just need to activate it. Besides, CRTL-Click = Right-Click. Not that hard to hold down a button.
    Reason 34: That really depends on the people working there, so I can’t argue with that.
    Reason 35: Can’t argue with that, because being responsible on the internet is the best anti-virus there is. However, that’s not really a reason to buy a PC instead of Mac.
    Reason 36: That’s nice.
    Reason 37: Not my concern, I currently have no need to access a networked computer.
    Reason 38: Why do you need to know the path? Excluding Terminal purposes.
    Reason 39: It’s stored on a .Mac server. Thats why you need a .Mac Account. Oh and, BOOT CAMP!
    Reason 40: I’ve never heard ANYONE who uses mac say that.
    Reason 41: BOOTCAMP FTW
    Reason 42: A re-type of your reason: “Oh Noes, Apple expanded from selling computers to selling computers, phones, and hand-held mp3 players! Of course, it’s perfectly fine that Microsoft expanded from selling computers to selling computer, phones, hand-held mp3 players and video game consoles!”
    Reason 43: Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft, is already retired. Where’s your precious leader now?
    Reason 44: You don’t need to (btw, there’s bootcamp)
    Reason 45: Our updates aren’t on a set schedule, but they also aren’t incomplete/rushed because of this.
    Reason 46: Buy an external HD and store your files on that.
    Reason 47: I have no idea what ReadyBoost is, so I’m not concerned with this issue.
    Reason 48: You can always hold and drag the mouse to select multiple files. (if there is a file in the way, hold control while holding and dragging.)
    Reason 49: I will repeat myself one last time: BOOTCAMP.
    Reason 50: You can press apple-shift-4.


  42. @Vaius: Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment. I don’t know if you saw, but I recently made the switch myself to Apple – bought a Mac Pro. As I said, this list is less than perfect it was merely just an attempt to provide something. However, you can read my true feelings in the Apple / OEM post linked at the bottom.


  43. i love you.
    i just switched from a mac to a pc after 10 years of my own personal apple laptop.
    it’s been the greatest thing ever.

  44. oregonnetadmin says:


    TOTALLY AGREED! having worked in education for MANY years, we continuously find issues with the macs that say they “just work”. In fact, when we do have problems Apple is kind enough to push us into purchasing their $5,000 tech support “feature”. Hmmm…some “feature”…its education REMEMBER? Bar none, in all the school systems i have worked at and visited, the pc platform is by way ahead of the game. Remote control, simple to use, familiarity across the board, programs that are FAR superior than any macs built in programs, and the list keeps going on. I agree with CUCU. mac people. you invest way too much money to play with on a machine to do simple tasks and truth, very much, apple people are “fans” and much like the lemming. oh isnt this pretty! i must have it! who cares if it works! it looks COOOOL!


  45. @Spuds: I’ve been using a Mac for well over a decade now. Once I entered the design engineering program at my local university, mac=crap. Don’t get me wrong macs are beautiful machines, but macs have never been good at heavy engineering programs such as proE, solidworks, catia, 3ds max, etc… I’m switching back to pc. If I want to run the latest and most powerful solid modeling software mac’s just won’t cut it. Macs are good for people that either use adobe artsy fartsy programs or don’t like to game. Anyways mac’s have a niche market and are not for everyone.


  46. After nearly 20 years on a mac, I’ve switched to PC.

    Macs are too damn expensive.
    I can do everything I did on a Mac on a PC.
    I like the idea of reverse-snobism.

    After all…it’s only a computer. I don’t need fastest, coolest, hippest, whitest, biggest. I just need something that does a reliable job of…computing.

    Mac’s got a superior ad campaign…I’ll give ‘em that. But for me, once the ad is over, a computer is a computer. Pick one that fits my needs, don’t overspend, and enjoy the work it does.


  47. 4. Free software is definitely more plentiful on the Windows side of the fence. While there are a number of free OS X applications, the ones that are decent usually require some kind of fee. However, I must admit there is a large development of applications for OSX starting to take off.

    There is X11 which will allow you to run unix based software natively. This is included in OS X.

    http://developer.apple.com/opensource/tools/X11.html

    “X11 for Mac OS X is an implementation of the X Window System that makes it possible to run X11-based applications in Mac OS X. Based on the X.org Foundation releases — the leading reference implementation of X11 — X11 for Mac OS X is compatible, fast, and fully integrated with Mac OS X. It features includes full X11R7 compatibility including an X window server, Quartz window manager, libraries, and basic utilities such as xterm. It is optional but installed by default on Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard. The X11 SDK headers are available as part of the Xcode Developer Tools.”


  48. I will stay with Linux on generic X86.

    I have all the widgets I need, I have the games I want, I have the office suite I prefer, I have all I need regarding wants.

    Next, I have the ability to use generic x86 hardware and 90% of the time, it works without extra fidgeting, without junkware being installed alongside any necessary ‘drivers’, without the need for an Apple logo. I don’t have to pay $80 for a mouse, I’m using a $18 trackball, have used the same $9 mouse for years on another Linux box.

    I do not need nor want to upgrade every 3 months, so I can still perform the tasks I need by retaining the services of a Pentium 3. Those people that feel they need to use Silverlight alongside Flash and 3 versions of Java are not who I am.


  49. How do I switch from a mac to a pc?


  50. You sound like you’ve always wanted a Mac but never could…except the 1st one this list bs, all those things you’ve said you cant do on a mac made me laugh…


  51. agreed man, I’ve used both for a long time and am thinking of switching back to get a more powerful/capable system for less money. it’s sad how some people are responding so negatively.

    Also on 40, mac runs on unix subsystem, but don’t think you’ll be able to use it just like a *nix box as it uses darwin binaries so a lot of linux stuff you just won’t be able to install.


  52. @cucu
    > Apple users are 99% fanboys with more money than brains :)

    In a sense, it might sounds true (with brain). I find using Apple is sooo easy that it makes me feel like I need no brain to utilize it. But of course, just like every person, I need to be creative in order to produce something, but that doesn’t related to what computer or OS do you use.

    Joey Says:
> If you’re a competent user, you’ll have no trouble with malware or spyware. My XP machine has always run great and has never crashed or BSOD’d.

    This my big problem if I buy Windows-based-machine. I use computer for specific purpose. I’m not an IT guy who easily deals with antimalware, spyware, antivirus or so. So my opinion is, to use Windows computer safely, I have to be a competent Windows user, which I am not.

    Matt Sherif Says:
    > Nicely done, did you mention that the administrator account is WAY easier to use in Windows than in Mac?

    Well, it just your opinion. But, a disaster with administrator account in Windows was one of my friend’s reasons to switch to PC. Because she lost her data then.
    Another friend of mine, used MsWord to wrote her thesis (back in 1996). She kept losing her image and no explanation why did that happened.
    Another guy, used ArchiCAD and lost his column or pillar he put in his architectural design, still with any logical explanation.
    Both faulties in Word or AcrhiCAD, simply never happened in a Mac.

    tractordriver88 Says:
    > The Eject buttons on external CD and DVD drives do not work. You must eject from the finder

    Not true. I have my PowerBook here, and the eject button work fine, no need to eject it from finder.


  53. @ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SAY THE LIST IS LAME, I DON’T SEE A BETTER LIST COMING FROM YOU!!

    I bought my first PC about 1 year ago and after much messing around wth a 24″ G5 and a HP Touchsmart (approx. 3hrs each!) i finally settled for the HP (Vista Premium), i just find it so much easier to use than the Mac, the touchscreen works seamlessly with Vista, and the HP was £750 less!!!!
    I’ve had no probs setting up my home network; video, audio and picture editing is a sinch, and as for malicious infections; i’ve had one, this was a schoolboy error on my behalf, and it was hardly a problem anyways, utilizing the backup and restore center made it a 30 min inconvenience.
    One more point, how can Apple Inc. and Apple users justify selling/buying at the skyhigh prices, what can a Mac do that a PC can’t??
    CASE CLOSED!!


  54. Okay, here are a couple:

    1) The Mac has a delete key, but it’s not truth in advertising – it’s actually a backspace key! My PC has a Backspace key AND a Delete key, and they work as advertised.

    2) It’s a fallacy that Macs never crash. My MacBook Pro crashes occasionally, and suffers from many of the same maladies as my PC.

    3) I can’t play .wmv files (arguably one of the more common video file types in use on the web) on the Mac without downloading VLC or some other alternative media player. I can do this on my PC. If I download an additional codec on Windows, I CAN play .mov files from within Windows Media Player.

    4) Mac has no tablet pc functionality available. E-ink is very useful and very cool to use in such programs as One Note or the free Journal.

    5) Fingerprint scanners for biometric login are something I haven’t seen on a Mac. Admittedly not perfect (newsflash: neither are passwords), they offer an easier alternative to remembering (or worse yet, having to store in a password file) all those different passwords for different sites, etc. Fingerprint scanners are becoming almost ubiquitous on PC laptops.

    I own and enjoy using a 15″ Macbook Pro. After making the switch almost a year ago, I’ve found that I spend most of my time using Windows via Parallels, and for the most part, use only Firefox on the Mac side. I hate Safari, and while I found many of the other apps fun and interesting, after many months of trying to find reasons to use them, I just haven’t really identified any compelling reasons to do so. I’m in the process of switching back. I’ll probably always keep a Mac around, but I doubt it’ll ever become my primary computer.


  55. I’m currently switching from my Apple to a PC laptop, what brand would be best within around $350


  56. I use a pc, but I use Linux (Ubuntu 8.10). Didn’t apple dumb down BSD for OSX? Maybe MS should consider that too. Imagine – no more viruses and trojans.

  57. ThinkLady says:


    as a writer, artist, photographer, have used both OS and prefer PC — both have uses, pros, cons — but prefer the PC for getting loads of work accomplished.


  58. Mac user right now on Intel iMac and running Vista Ultimate x64, I have not used Leopard for 3 months now. I am definitely buying a PC and stop this nonsense with Apple and Macs being so far behind when it comes to processors. The only quads are MacPros, way too expensive. I can buy a PC with dual quad processors and monitors and still pay less. It is ridiculous.


  59. I’m switching from mac to PC because I can get so much more power for less cash.

    But I’m still going to miss my mac big time.

    In fact, I read this list to feel better but it didn’t help much.


  60. My main reason to switch back to PC was the poor hardware quality that my MacBook had. I got a replacement display that had the worst image quality I have ever seen in my life. Apple’s reply to my complain: “MacBooks are not meant to be used with image processing software like Photoshop. Just get a MacBook Pro instead”
    All in all I had my Macbook repaired 6 times so far and the general quality of service was always below the level that one might expect from a “premium” company like Apple.
    I decided to switch to a Dell Notebook now. Mainly because they have really good displays and good service.


  61. my family was a mix of 2 macbooks and 3 acer laptops running vista. we noticed that the pc’s were getting more use because of the variety of programs, vista seemed easier to use, and the equivalent mac versions of programs just did not work as well as windows version ..ie microsoft office etc.. then we started having problems with one of the macs,it would appear to freeze and go to sleep on its own, the guys at the apple store never did really explain what they did to…kinda…fix that, happens less often now anyway, then couple months later the hard drive had to be replaced. the second mac the screen started to flicker and then go black from time to time then just quit, so made another trip to the apple store and told them what it was doing and without looking at it he said, gonna cost ya $700 to fix, why not just upgrade to a macbook pro? so now we have 4 acers running vista home premium, 1 twice repaired and works most of the time mac, and 1 white paper weight.

  62. Anonymous says:

  63. Not impressed. Many of those are personnal preferences*, repetition of the same things*, ignorance of how to use a Mac *** or simply mention that a PC “can do that too”. And I’m saying as the owner and user of BOTH Mac and PC computers.
    You’ll have to work harder if you want to convince me too.

    * I’m quite happy that iTunes don’t quit when I click the X button so I can continue listening to music without the control window. Use cmd+Q to quit quickly.
    ** OMG more softwares on windows!!!!111!one! Quality before quantity, friend.
    *** # 50 just to mention this one: cmd+shift+3 for a full screen capture or cmd+shift+4 for only a section. My Windows computer tech boyfriend was quite jealous of the last one.


  64. #46
    One thing you have to admit that Mac has which we Windows users don’t is Apple Time Machine. To be honest, that alone makes me want to switch to Mac. HOWEVER, this is no longer the case. For all us Windows Users looking for a Windows version of Time Machine, there’s now Genie Timeline. A new backup utility by the makers of Genie Backup Manager (also a great backup tool) at Genie-soft.
    Genie Timeline is an amazing replica to Macs time machine and follows the set it and forget it concept. However, with Genie Timeline you can choose to backup to any external media unlike Mac thats only for time capsule.
    Now youve got yourself another great reason to Switch to PC! :)


  65. Well, my friend, YOU ARE AN IDIOT.


  66. *drumroll* …and the result of the challenge is: You fail miserably!!! Biggest piece of crap list I’ve ever seen!

  67. willie wonka says:


    After 20 years of using Macs, I recently switched from Mac to PC because I coulnd’t find an _affordable_ Mac that did what I want. I wanted a tablet PC, and, unfortuantely, Apple hasn’t made one yet, although one is rumored. Furthermore, I wante something that was affordable; so I bought a $400 tablet PC that so far does everything I wanted it to do. I do miss the Mac interface; I wish Apple would license its OS to 3rd parties or I wish I could get my PC to run MacOSX.

  68. BlackTenshi says:


    Well, my own personal experience: I first saw a mac at a friend’s home, his family had this small printing plant, and a mac had been adopted to do homework and such. When we had to make a report complete with a presentation, using graphics and images, we couldn’t do it on it, we couldn’t find how to… We went to another friend’s home to use Win 98 SE (don’t remember the mac version, sorry).

    Then, at the graphic design school, in the library they had this mac, still a cream gray-ish square box thing, that was too difficult to use, I don’t know about the version of the OS, but I remember someone had been playing with it and left it all clustered and ugly. You just couldn’t search the web comfortably.

    Then, at work, in the department of Design and Prepress for a medium-size printing plant, we had 2 main computers, a PC with Win XP Pro SP2, and an eMac with OS X 10.3.9, everyone wanted to use the PC, perhaps because of Win being more familiar to all of us. Despite my previous experiences with mac, I decided I would work on the eMac… And that’s when it all started…

    I really don’t understand how so many people are out there defending it as perfect and claiming that “it just works!!”, I have had only not-so-pleasant to really-extremely-frustrating-bad experiences with it.

    First of all, in this place, in this media, there are still a whole lot of people that uses Corel Draw when creating vector graphics or layouts… And in order to work with them on the mac I had to ask my fellow designer to convert it from Corel X4 or X3 to Corel 11, because that’s what the mac have (there are no more versions of this software, as I understand).

    Then, the programs closing by themselves without any warning… I got to really hate that little windows that the mac showed every time my work suddenly disappeared, asking me if I wanted to send to apple the description of what I was doing. It happened so often that sometimes, I just lost it and, enraged, sent a lot of insults and bad words in the message to apple.

    Also, the slowing, oh my… When opening a large and complicated AI file, or converting a PDF into TIFF, or copying a large amount of files, the system would slow down soooo bad… and remained in slow motion EVEN LONG AFTER the task was completed, to the point that the interface of the OS didn’t quite recognized my mouse input, causing that whenever I tried to switch to another program the icon got dragged off from the dock and *poof*… I had to wait several minutes until the system got back being at its usual speed…

    Speaking of performance, it seems that you can’t “punish” a mac as much as you can do it to a PC… I remember trying to solve this issue about speed and performance and one of the Google results led me to this article or thread saying that for the SO I had, with the hard drive I had, there had to be at least 20 GB of free space in order for OS X to run fine… I remember the PC having less than 5 GB of free disk space and Win still running pretty well…

    Lastly, that dreaded, hated, feared Black Screen of Death (just to call it something) with this message in all those languages saying me that the system just couldn’t resist more and the mac had to be shut down… With no possible way of getting out of there and reset being the only solution…

    So, yes, same problems in the operating systems, closing programs, slow performance, blue and black screens of death… And still I would have preferred to work with Win XP every time I could.

    On a side note: I’ve always liked it how with a PC you can build your machine from zero using the pieces you want, if you know how. I was always amazed as how with Linux, after you build up your machine as you want from zero, you can configure almost every aspect on how the system runs, if you know how to… With mac, it seems like a little less freedom, but it’s ok if you are an average user I guess. Linux would be that monster car a mechanic would be working on, Windows would be that tuned up car you drive, and mac would be a (nice looking, perhaps) car with little side wheels attached to the sides… And the prettyness of the macs don’t work for me, after all, I see them as tools… And if I were a carpenter, I wouldn’t have my hammer and saw all decorated and polished as my priority.

    Regards


  69. I’m using both on the same machine. Windows for gaming and Mac OS for everything else. No need to switch :)


  70. Haha. Who cares about free software!! When you have a mac, you don’t need anymore software. And no, I’m not a fanboy, i’ve used windows forever and it just doesn’t work right. Mac however, works just fine without software updates.


  71. There is one flaw that I would like to correct you on. You say that windows constantly releases security fixes. You can’t compare it in this way, because Mac OSX has far fewer holes than windows.


  72. It sounds like you didn’t fully do your research. Windows definitely has its advantages over Mac, I won’t deny that (not a fanboy like other Mac users), but OSX actually has a lot of these features that you say it does not. For example, #50, you don’t have to open Grab, there’s a keyboard shortcut to take a screenshot. And there are actually far more options with screenshots in OSX than there are in Windows. And #41, Windows Media Center, you say there is no Mac equivalent. Have you ever heard of Front Row? If you’re going to basically bash OSX, at least do complete research.


  73. This is awesome. I probably couldn’t come up with better reasons myself or any that you haven’t covered in some way. In my opinion, Mac just lacks the functionality that a growing world needs. They are junk. Pretty pieces of junk that have way too many gimmicks trying to distract people away from the fact that the ONLY thing they seem to do AS well, but not better, than a PC is running adobe. Even that is very disputable. I hate how people around my age (16-25) think that Mac computers are better for creative working. Bullshit. I’m an artist and I find Macs to be poor at best. P.S. Final Cut blows. Why do you think 99.9 percent of all major films, feature and independent, are made on a program that was developed and originally ONLY for PC. Avid. It’s because the people at Apple Inc. don’t know about being creative. They know how to make money by fooling people. Its like a Volkswagen Beetle. Cute, possibly stylish, but when it comes to work…useless. Yeah, you try hitching a boat to one or trying to bring a ladder and lights to a set. Apple uses the young and impressionable minds of today’s youth to make them thing that it’s cool and artisty to use Mac rather than PCs. They boast that you should be a rebel and not conform to the PC world. Guess what…they’re ALL STILL CONFORMING! Just differently and with products that are useless when put to the test. The world trusts PCs for the important things. I say…let them play with their toys and think they’re cool. PCs are and have always been the future of the technical world.

  74. Anonymous says:


    Umm-why don’t you take a look at the posting date of 2008. You are comparing apples to mufflers.

  75. Anonymous says:


    I have to agree. Especially with the Genius Bar (Cardiff) – they seemed to deny all knowledge of an error I was having with my ipod one of the ones with a video camera but no camera), where the music would sound like a broken tape when the pedometer was running at the same time.


  76. In my opinion…apples are still mufflers. They may have become more glitzy and streamline as far as UI smoothness and a couple media-oriented applications but they’re still rubbish when it comes to functionality of someone who wants to do more than type word documents, draw a few pictures, and browse the internet. Computers are, at their very foundation, about functionality. Maybe when they actually start making computers…and not toys I’ll be a little less harsh. Of course…that’s not going to happen anytime soon because that goes against the principles of what make a macs, macs.

  77. Anonymous says:


    This was an incredible dumb list, and I use PC, but alot of what you said was a “version” of half truth. 


  78. Apple is doing better than Microsoft ever did right now. GO MACS!

  79. James Smith says:


    You are a fucking idiot.  None of those are real issues.  If you knew anything about computers, you wouldn’t post those.

  80. Tim Sarbin says:


    So are you a windows fanboy or are you simply trolling for the fun of it? I use windows, linux, and mac platforms myself and find this list so fantastically ignorant that I hope for your sake that it is a joke.

    Hey for your next story, why don’t you make a “50 reasons why the sun is bad for us”. I’ll start out the list:
    1. I get sunburn if I stay out too long
    2. Too much exposer can give me cancer and kill me
    3. It will blind me if I stare at it
    4. I can heat up by a fire in dark/cold areas, but I can’t easily cool down in bright/sunny areas

    Being a troll is fun, wee!


  81. Why are you guys so sensitive! They are just operating systems! You act like your feelings are hurt or something. Plus, he is right for the most part. All of my teachers at my college only accept papers written in Microsoft Word. Same for sending in resumes, they will not upload unless it has the .doc extension.


  82. Blu-Ray is something that Mac should adopt.  It turns me off that Apple wants to avoid Blu-Ray because of their iTunes plans.  Bad business.


  83. these aren’t really why PC is better than mac. It seems more like why PC is equal to Mac


  84. Apple overcharges almost in about every aspect. The new generation ignores blue ray, yet boeasts being the best in multimedia. The 15″ model does not come with high end processors such as i7 family, yet you will have to pay exorbitant amount more than a PC running core i7. Unibody aluminum body performs poor in dissipating heat and wrist rest which is non-aesthetically big gets quite warm and sets the fan off that can be heard feets away!
    Keyborad never come with numerical pad which is quite an asset if you wanna crunch numbers with your machine. The lid when open, sinks and hence the display sits lower and further back, compared closer, fullly upright display on Thinkpads and Tecra PCs.
    With PC many=ufactureres such as Sony with its stylish business laptops, Toshiba with its tablets and legendary Tecra models and Lenovo’s also tablet and powrhouse Thinkpads in alomst every screen size and feature you want, Macbook has to put forth a lot more to justify for the premimum price it sells at the moment.

  85. Reason number 51, and my reason... says:


    Apple’s service is not what it used to be a few years back.  I explained in detail what the problem with my power book was over the phone.  They made me an appointment at my nearest apple store.  I waited 30 minutes longer once I was there.  Finally when they checked it they simply said that my computer’s problem was not covered by apple care. Even worse, they would not fix it.  They suggested I looked for an repair store that was apple certified and gave me the boot.   They were not nice in any way.  Later on I had a problem with the pin connector of my ipod touch and they would not repair that either.  They suggested I bought a new ipod touch.  I found a phone repair company that fixed it, I had them jail brake my iPhone, I connected it with T-Mobile and I bought me a beutiful 15 inch HP with an i7 proecessor.  I am very happy leaving apple behind.  :)


  86. A lot of these are inaccurate or just false.

    For instance: #3 says you can’t buy 3rd party RAM for Macs. That’s false – I’m typing this on a MBP with 3rd party RAM I installed myself just a few months ago. This also speaks to point #5, which is true for desktops but not laptops, which the majority of consumers now use.

    I didn’t really bother to read the rest after the first few, but I did glance at #50, which is demostrably untrue. Command-Shift-3 or Command-Shift-4 if you want to screenshot only a portion of the screen.

    NB: I run both OSX and Windows XP on this machine, and I have a separate Linux machine. For my next computer I plan on building a Windows desktop. I am no Mac fanboy, I just hate shitty information like this.


  87. this list is way wrong and way outdated, screenshots on a mac are way easier and more intuitive than print screen, my mouse has a right click, I have found way more useful freeware apps on mac than pc, gaming is not a reason to completely switch an OS… Come on buddy, how about a few real reasons?

  88. Apple Sucks says:


    Some of my friends use Apples, but they suck, and I can tell you first hand: They cannot be compared to a Windows 7. 


  89. I give you one reason that beats your 50 (meaningless reasons). Microsoft hasn’t been able to create one solid OS since XP in 1991.


  90. MT, you got that right!


  91. you can install microsoft office in mac os, by the way, pages allows u to save in .doc extension.


  92. only people who have not try Mac Os can say mac sucks, cause this is definitely the best operating system nowadays.

    by scrolling my fingers in my macbook pro trackpad i can do wherever i want (open apps, switch spaces, etc) just do some google research and u will see that mac os is better than windows os.


  93. This is funny, its almost like reading…  I like the colors better, I think that the shape of the icons are cool.  I can get new pieces.  The desk top looks fancier. Um what about stuff that actually matters, like stability and performance.  Or even consistentcy, if you have a PC connected to the internet… you get none of those.

  94. Myra Munawar says:


    and you point is? Stop being a troll yourself.

  95. Myra Munawar says:


    I used the MAC OS and no matter how much I try to love them, I still hate them and whatever Macs do, Windows does it better, especially Windows 7.

    Apple has a winner with iPhone but when it comes with Macs, I rather stay with PC.

  96. Myra Munawar says:


    and your point is? You are yourself acting like a troll here. lol.

  97. Myra Munawar says:


    Wrong! Have you ever tried Windows 7? or are you still stuck on sucking Apple’s logo while sleeping?

  98. Myra Munawar says:


    well your info is shitty too. Try explaining your info to a new user of Mac. You cant right? so you Fail. PC are more easier to use and upgrade. Macfag boy.

  99. Myra Munawar says:


    yeap, thats why Windows 7 is the fastest selling OS in the history. Yeap, Go Macs…lol

    Just google it for the facts.

  100. Myra Munawar says:


    hit the raw nerve there right Gumby? ;)

  101. Myra Munawar says:


    sure you use a PC. Idiot!


  102. We’re all very happy for you.


  103. definitely?? nah that means u never use windows and u sucks. I’ve used both and of course windows is better. Tell me 10 good advantage that Mac has OTHER than stupid realibility that is sooooo boring for me!!!

  104. You are a fuckin' moron says:


    Please just tell me how MAC’s are so stable and high performing. For the same amount of money it costs to buy a MAC book, I can customize my parts for twice its optimum performance and reliability. Only fuckin’ morons get viruses or malware nowadays from downloading stupid shit, fake porn, fake programs, etc, and even then, AVG free, which is exclusive for PC, can help you from all of that.

  105. You are a fuckin' moron says:


    Don’t be a dick, Nick.


  106. A lot of these points are fail. “Where is my print screen?” (google is your friend, cmd+shfit+enter)
    “Why aren’t the shortcuts the same?” (you can change them to what you prefer in preferences)
    “Where’s right click?” (multi touch, right click not needed)  this list has been rushed to get out there without very much research.


  107. Mac have some nice things like going to sleep and waking up really fast, but so far I have only seen a few things it does better than a PC. Anyone that outright says “PC IS BETTER THAN A MAC” is probably an idiot. If you want to claim PC is better, that’s fine, but you’d better be able to back up your shit otherwise you’re just as bad as all the other dumbasses claiming macs are better.


  108. You’re supporting holding 3 buttons vs. 1 button? What kind of moron are you? People want things to be simple, and holding down three buttons just to capture a screen makes me rather want to pull out my camera and take a picture of the whole dame laptop.

    If you’re gonna make an arguement, try reading the entire document and then providing your insight.

    Now, the new Mac Pro is pretty impressive with it’s processor being available with up to 12 cores, but it’s a Intel, which isn’t a very good brand if you’re looking for a gaming processor. Not to mention, the Bulldozer and the Sally Bridge are coming out soon, and will blow traditional processors away, moving at 3.5 GHz compared to the MAC Pro at 2.93.

    This might chance if Apple decides they want in on this new processor, but lets take a look at graphics. From what I can tell, Apple offers the MAC Pro with an ATI Radeon HD 5870 with 1GB onboard memory. I can get laptops with the Radeon 6970 with 2Gb onboard memory 176 GB memory bandwith vs 153, and still have coke money in my pocket.

    RAM is fairly universal, and I don’t know if PC RAM manufactuors make MAC RAM or if they’re the same. So i can’t make a general bias. The same is with hard drives, as I imagine they’re fairly universal


  109. macs are beter hands down, they’re more expensive because they last longer, and as for PC’s being better at gaming… who cares? these internet games are made for CHILDREN, why don’t you use your computer for something productive.


  110. oksy get ready for me to refute ALL of your points.  they’re more expensive but they last longer, you say, well,  the fact is that if you run a mac at anything above 50% screen brightness you will stress the battery leading to a very quick process where the amount of energy a battery can hold is depleted to like three hours tops.  Also apple doesn’t cover this so you’ll have to buy a new battery from them.  secondly I believe that you were referring to browser games because then I will give you the place in my mind as indifferent, which is much better than that of a complete moron. For one the games cannot be made for children if they are rated M for mature and therefore for a mature audience.  Just for the record programming complex games with near human AI is a very respectable job.  Finally people with PCs do make good use of their time you see they program imaginative and innovative software which apple well rip off and make it seem like it was they’res the whole time.  For exampleFinal cut pro.  ripped of from after effects and windows movie maker professional.  Well now that I have sufficiently demolished your argument i tip my hat to you and say good-bye.   -oksimorn


  111. look above your post for evidence if you wish.  ask an you shall receive.  -oksimron


  112. oh and i believe i forgot to say that PCs do in fact last longer people just download programs that will take up a lot of the PCs processing space and call it slowing down.


  113. Helps if the author actually knew how to use a mac before commenting on one.  Any blgo that would post this crap is indeed crap…


  114. Helps if the author actually knew how to use a mac before commenting on one.  Any blog that would post this crap is indeed crap…


  115. maybe 80% of that was simply that mac ISNT windows. Not compatible.

    FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME, YOU CAN RUN WINDOWS ON A MAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  116. when you buy a mac, you pay to not have ridiculous problems and then buy a new computer in a month to 2 yr.s. Also, you can get the worlds best customer service, and free repairs, and genius bar, and one to one, and better battery life, and more memory, and better looks, and less “you just  _________________ did you really mean to do that?” no matter what you do, and less “you can update this antivirus ______________” every day!


  117. try going into an apple store and ask a genius! free, and they are real geniuses. DO IT if you dont know about shortcuts, screen zoom, expose, spaces, hot corners or ctrl-click. OR not AND


  118. i want popcorn and a nice fluffy sofa. guest 2, no offence, but you are… no comment.


  119. guest 2, (the swearing one), i will make no comment as to how sane you are. numbers dont go that low. 


  120. i will not comment on your sanity. you have one infinityth the processing power of a mac.


  121. omg! someone in here has a brain! if you say pc is better, then YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED A MAC!!!!!! (yeah i know mac is pc, not the point)

    also, right click: 3 ways. push down 2 fingers, tap two fingers, push corner (bottom left/right, as always custom.)


  122. on my mind is a whole lot of insane pc users. pc is good, couldnt do better self, but mac is by far better. just took 350$ popular computer on dell site, when upgraded comparably to macbook, 1010+$. plus future macs will have more features in lion. oh, and less bugs. and also, unibody. oh, and, ever used new macbook air?

    SO THIN, SO LIGHT, SO FAST!


  123. also, magsafe adapter. and all is customizable in one place, plus shortcuts. you can log in, open apps, and change your settings, all without touching the trackpad. which has at least 12 distinct multitouch gestures.


  124. steve, your a genius

    (no pun intended)


  125. you just looked at this page. would you really like to do that?
    you just breathed, ”
    your heart just beat”
    you exist”
    you just bought a windows computer, did you really mean to do that?


  126. you just insulted apple. did you really mean to—

    }crash – 974

    {}}})cause=should have bought a mac
    }currently scanning for viruses

    (blank screen)


  127. youre ALSO a genius!


  128. i love macbook pro!


  129. yes, you are


  130. i dont use windows, so that doesnt happen every 2 hr.s.


  131. again, youre a genius

  132.  HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA SO TRUE


  133. SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WINDOWS MUST BE SO MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!


  134. I think Windows is just better for businesses, with it many companies can compete and build PCs… with Apple there is no other competing MacOSX makers… it’s just a monopoly over the OS. That’s why Apple is making so much money. It is just Apple and no other companies can make money to make Macs.

    I like my Mac but I honestly miss being able to upgrade things like RAM and the video card, my Mac can’t play Starcraft 2 for crap… so what is my option? Buy a new Mac??!!!?? That’s absurd! Honestly I didn’t think it through well enough before I bought a Mac.


  135. You do realize we’re comparing Windows OS to Mac OS right? You’re basically just saying that Mac OS is so bad Apple had to make it so you could use windows just so you would still buy their crappy hardware for 3 times as much as an equivalent PC and still be able to use a good OS


  136. My Desktop literally has twice as much processing power as the best iMac you can buy. That’s the power of AMD


  137. bobs right!


  138. Wow, learn a little about the mac before your critique it, no offense intended. You make good points, and I appreciate your perspective, but its clear your experience with a mac is minimal.

    I agree:
    W(here)TF is my right-click mouse!?
    Edit Path is much easier on PC
    Upgrading and customizing, but thats more a matter of market saturation…

    Here are just a few comments…

    — People build macs all the time, with the same components that you find in apple products.  More PC users = more parts available, ‘s the only real difference.

    — I’d rather have my update late and safe, then on time and sh!tty

    — Free software is extremely abundant in Mac, we just don’t have a huge variety of the same program type, like windows does (I don’t need 30 different apps to take screenshots, 2 is enough IMO)

    — PCs can do whatever macs do (and more) but Macs are oriented towards video and photo editing, which is why they are the standard in these industries.  PCs game better, Macs art better.

    — The burning functions are the same between both (I can click a folder and burn), just like most aspects of these OS, as the two companies feed off eachother (ie. windows vista and 7 adopting Mac’s dash and genie bar)

    — VLC and Parian allow macs to run almost all video and audio formats.  More than windows can alone, and exactly the same as Windows + codecs + vlc.  Either way, they’re the same after 10mbs of downloads.

    — Its always seemed more logical (to me) that the ESCAPE key helps you ESCAPE from crashed programs. I’m not trying to DELETE my program when it crashes, so I disagree that COMMAND+OPTION+ESCAPE is weirder than CONTROL+ALT+DELETE :p

    — Windows IS more susceptible to virus, trojans, etc.  Thats what you get for being a monopoly, if a billion people use windows, and only 10 million use mac, thats 990 million more people who might potentially try and hurt you. if 1% are dicks, well thats ~10 million people out to get you.  When it becomes a more divided market, the pain of viruses will become more divided.  But for right now.  Macs are 99% safer from these.

    — I don’t know about XBOX, but I’m not surprised.  You’re saying that Microsoft’s gaming device doesn’t mesh well with Microsoft’s largest competiton’s computer OS? NOWAY!?   My mac works fine with PS3 tho…

    — Screencapture is COMMAND-SHIFT-3, FrontRow (COMMAND-ESCAPE) is just like W. Media Centr., right-clicking (or control click if you don’t have a mouse) creates a context menu, Remote desktop is different than “.mac” you can do remote desktop on a mac.

  139. Jeff Weisbein says:


    Since writing this (3 years ago) I’ve since switched to Mac’s full time (I bought a Mac Pro) and I agree that some of my points are silly (even though I owned and had used Mac’s at the time).  Anyway, this list is old/out dated and I don’t necessarily agree with all of the points I made.  Nonetheless, I appreciate your comment!


  140. Is this ment as irony? If i have a presentation to print out i just log in and print it out in just a few minutes, on a windows pc i have to confirm alot of shit and wait many minutes before i can use the pc after i came in on the computer. (and the pc is quite new)


  141. half these points are you just having OCD….


  142. Some of these show that a PC can do the same as a Mac, but on most of these occasions, a Mac can do it faster and/or more effeciently.
    That is the case in most occasions however I do get where you’re coming from with the issues on networks and gaming.

  143. Anonymous says:


    I stopped reading after 24.  Everything being compared are biased, poor comparisons.  You’re making a bunch of comparisons to Vista.  Even Microsoft users say Vista sucks, so all those reasons are void.  You talk about Microsoft Office, but Microsoft Office for Mac is much more user friendly and accepted more than for PC.  Also, I’m tired of hearing, “You can’t run a bunch of applications on Mac.”  This is completely false, I’m not that tech-savvy but I am able to run numerous applications on my Mac that are “PC only.”  Once I figured it out, opening .exe files on a Mac was simple.  I can’t even finish reading these poor excuses, they are so wrong it’s actually sad, at least make a decent attempt if you’re going to argue that PCs are better than Mac

  144. Jeff Weisbein says:


    Since writing this (3 years ago) I’ve since switched to Mac’s full time (I bought a Mac Pro) and I agree that some of my points are silly (even though I owned and had used Mac’s at the time I had written this).  Anyway, this list is old/out dated (I wrote it in 2008 – things have changed a lot since then) and I don’t necessarily agree with all of the points I made.  Nonetheless, I appreciate your comment!

  145. Anonymous says:


    fuck you, i like both mac and windows.

  146. Anonymous says:


    This is rubbish.

    with windows, you have to deal with Registry editor .DLL, .SYS, .WIN files all the time. If you lose either one of these files, your operating system is down to dogs.

    Mac is a computer for simpletons, I am a computer wiz and I can tell, mac is good, and PC is good.

    I need both for my daily lives.

  147. Steve Jobs says:


    lol you belong to STEVE JOBS now.

  148. Anonymous says:


    i agree completely with most of these reasons     i wont be caught dead with a mac EVER

  149. Anonymous says:


    Thats rubbish.. Mac is horrible, especially for the simpletons.. Case in point!  A woman brought a mac to a party at a bar I used to work at, she wanted to play a movie off of it for her friends on a standard projector..  WHOOPS  No VGA Port!  Your crap out of luck.. You need to buy that extra.  Oh wait, what kind of movie is it lady?  I can put it on my laptop and play it for you!  iMOVIE?  Sorry Thats not compatible with the rest of civilization!  MAC can Suck it!

  150. Anonymous says:


    Look when it was Written Moron!  And Vista did suck!  Which makes this even more hilarious!


  151. Ok… you have a lot of stupid, useless reasons which prove nothing whatsoever…
    lemee run you through them, ok?
    here we go…
    #4: “Free software”… well a lot of that “free software” is crap that non stop asks you to upgrade to the premium version for a fee… i use windows too, and i am always scared to download something without a cd, cause i think its gonna slow down my computer… (mac app store = trustworthy)
    #6: “Boot Camp”… i hope you realize that the reason for this is because Apple knows that people use windows, and they have the guts to admit that windows is a strong contendor… if you’re gonna complain that boot camp fails, lemee tell you this… a recent survey of notebooks stated that “The fastest Vista notebook we’ve tested this year was a Mac”… how bout them Apple’s, kids?
    #7: “Editing”… Mac gives you a strong selection of editing software out of the box… you wanna buy Sony Vegas Pro for $500? by the time you get all you need for a pc to have enough editing software comparable to a Mac, you are gonna have to rack up about $1000 (or more) and your computer is gonna be a piece of crap…
    #12: “Faster loading”… do your research… statistics show that microsoft programs load faster (only by a few seconds, but a few seconds nonetheless) on Mac… even office loads faster o.o
    #15: “Linux”… like i said above… free software is crap, and that goes for linux too… people say that linux works great… but lemee tell you this… the only reason you would EVER use linux is if your pc is a pile of crap from 1980… i’ve said this to my “pc buddies” before… Mac users use Mac because they WANT to… Windows/Linux users use Windows/Linux because they HAVE to… people complain that Mac’s are expensive and Windows is a good alternative… look up Best Buy/Future Shop/Costco… check the processor… the GHz… and all the Ram, etc… unless it is on sale, the pc’s are more expensive… Ex: I bought a MacBook Pro just a few months ago… it cost me about $1900… (13.3”, 4gb of ram, i7 proccesor (turboboost 3.4 GHz), iWork, iLife, Waranty, Magic Mouse, Laptop Case…) i looked up a similar Windows 7 contendor and the best i found was an HP netbook (12.1” screen, 4gn of ram, i7 proccessor (turboboost to 2.7 GHz), NO waranty, NO office/software, NO mouse, NO Laptop case) for about $2200 (on sale from $3000)… and you complain Mac’s are expensive
    #16: “Comunities”… you shouldnt need comutities, but if you do, one phone call to apple will solve any problem… they pick up within 30 seconds, and you got no machines… unlike pc’s where you have to call different manufactures and are always redirected… apple genious’s know all about Mac, and dont have to redirect/transfer you…
    #20: “Clicking ‘X'”… this is a great feature… and lemee explain the reason it is there… it is there so that once you close the application, it is still slightly running in the background, so if you ever have to reuse the program afterwards, it wont take forever to load… Ex… start up GarageBand, it will take a few seconds the first time… exit it (even quit it) and it is instant on right after… do the same with sony vegas… or any other editing program…
    #21: “Technicians”… you dont need technicians with Mac… it is a stable, trusted operating system… you nver know when a pc will crash, so having a technician nearby is a good thing… with Mac… there is a 98% chance nothing will go wrong, but if somthing does (because it is a machine, nonetheless) you can simply take it to the apple store and have it fixed within 15-10 minutes…


  152. #28: “Add or Remove Programs”… you are the biggest idiot ever if you think Add/Remove programs is a good thing… ever notice how when you download a “free” software/”trial” software and then uninstall and try to reinstall, it remembers you have downloaded it before? that is cause Add/Remove Programs doesnt remove all the hidden files, and that is how windows gets alot of viruses… just drag the program you dont want to the Trash on Mac, and it is gone forever… just “poof” never been there, and nothing stays hidden… you are seriously mistaken with this, and i can prove this to you too… download office (trial) and uninstall after 30 days on ur pc… see if it remembers… do the same on mac, see if it remembers… geez… Windows users will try to find anything (even if false) to compare before a Mac user comes and crushes their dreams
    #32: “Dell installs for you”… that is cause you NEED to have someone install all the wires for a pc… with a mac (even a desktop) you just plug in the power cord… no mess whatsoever… with a Mac, you dont need to be a computer expert to figure it out…
    #33: “Right Click Mouse”… Apple knows how to use all the space on their products, and dont waste their time with buttons… buttons are a thing of the past, for Apple, and they are moving ahead with gestures… i would like to see a pc that can use gestures right from the track pad… (ex… 3 finger swipe, 4 finger swipe, flip, zoom)… it feels real on a Mac…
    #36: “iPod/iPhone”… this proves nothing about the operating systems… this is about portable devices, which is a completely different category, and guess what? Apple wins in that too… Apple INVENTED Apps… Apple CREATED tablets… they are ahead of the industry in that too… they are just nice enough to give it to windows users too…
    #42: “Motives”… i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about… the reason they changed it is because they specialize in more than just computers now… what the hell does that have to do with their motives? if anything, it shows that they are motivated to created bigger and better things in teh future…
    #43: “Steve Jobs”… as much of a fan as i am of Steve Jobs, i know that his time will come one day… For your information, Apple is a HUGE industry that does not rest on the shoulders of 1 person… Steve Jobs is great for Apple, but there are people (ex: Jony Ive) who share his passion for the company, and are high up in the company as well…

    This is just a simple rant on SOME of the things your are hugely mistaken with in this article… i could list all 50 and find something to talk to you about, but ive wasted enough of my time on you… now… im gonna go edit a movie on my MacBook Pro, which is only going to take 28.5 seconds to boot up, so i’m not waiting around all day for it to do so… you can sit there… and wait… when your computer finally starts up windows movie maker, you can have fun realizing that it fails, and you need to go out and spend $500 on Sony Vegas Pro… if i need a more advanced program than iMovie 11 (which is the most unlikely thing in my life) im just gonna start up the Mac App Store in 2.3 seconds and buy Final Cut Pro from the comfort of my home… have fun trying to decide which program out of hundred to buy for your pc… (and hope that it works)…


  153. Ok… you have a lot of stupid, useless reasons which prove nothing whatsoever…  
    lemee run you through them, ok?  
    here we go…  
    #4: “Free software”… well a lot of that “free software” is crap that non stop asks you to upgrade to the premium version for a fee… i use windows too, and i am always scared to download something without a cd, cause i think its gonna slow down my computer… (mac app store = trustworthy)  
    #6: “Boot Camp”… i hope you realize that the reason for this is because Apple knows that people use windows, and they have the guts to admit that windows is a strong contendor… if you’re gonna complain that boot camp fails, lemee tell you this… a recent survey of notebooks stated that “The fastest Vista notebook we’ve tested this year was a Mac”… how bout them Apple’s, kids?  
    #7: “Editing”… Mac gives you a strong selection of editing software out of the box… you wanna buy Sony Vegas Pro for $500? by the time you get all you need for a pc to have enough editing software comparable to a Mac, you are gonna have to rack up about $1000 (or more) and your computer is gonna be a piece of crap…  
    #12: “Faster loading”… do your research… statistics show that microsoft programs load faster (only by a few seconds, but a few seconds nonetheless) on Mac… even office loads faster o.o  
    #15: “Linux”… like i said above… free software is crap, and that goes for linux too… people say that linux works great… but lemee tell you this… the only reason you would EVER use linux is if your pc is a pile of crap from 1980… i’ve said this to my “pc buddies” before… Mac users use Mac because they WANT to… Windows/Linux users use Windows/Linux because they HAVE to… people complain that Mac’s are expensive and Windows is a good alternative… look up Best Buy/Future Shop/Costco… check the processor… the GHz… and all the Ram, etc… unless it is on sale, the pc’s are more expensive… Ex: I bought a MacBook Pro just a few months ago… it cost me about $1900… (13.3”, 4gb of ram, i7 proccesor (turboboost 3.4 GHz), iWork, iLife, Waranty, Magic Mouse, Laptop Case…) i looked up a similar Windows 7 contendor and the best i found was an HP netbook (12.1” screen, 4gn of ram, i7 proccessor (turboboost to 2.7 GHz), NO waranty, NO office/software, NO mouse, NO Laptop case) for about $2200 (on sale from $3000)… and you complain Mac’s are expensive  
    #16: “Comunities”… you shouldnt need comutities, but if you do, one phone call to apple will solve any problem… they pick up within 30 seconds, and you got no machines… unlike pc’s where you have to call different manufactures and are always redirected… apple genious’s know all about Mac, and dont have to redirect/transfer you…  
    #20: “Clicking ‘X'”… this is a great feature… and lemee explain the reason it is there… it is there so that once you close the application, it is still slightly running in the background, so if you ever have to reuse the program afterwards, it wont take forever to load… Ex… start up GarageBand, it will take a few seconds the first time… exit it (even quit it) and it is instant on right after… do the same with sony vegas… or any other editing program…  
    #21: “Technicians”… you dont need technicians with Mac… it is a stable, trusted operating system… you nver know when a pc will crash, so having a technician nearby is a good thing… with Mac… there is a 98% chance nothing will go wrong, but if somthing does (because it is a machine, nonetheless) you can simply take it to the apple store and have it fixed within 15-10 minutes…

  154. Anonymous says:


    Might I add that Macs get much hotter than Windows PC’s do. They also get hotter faster too.

    Another thing that you may not have thought of, Windows certainly has much better and welcoming startup sounds and shutdown sounds than Macs do. I’m not even sure if Macs have shutdown sounds. But the Mac start up sound is mainly a single note weird sounding thing. Windows has tune to them. Say, listen to the Windows XP startup and shutdown sounds. And Windows Vista and 7 too.

  155. Anonymous says:


    By Macs getting hot I meant by the fact that they can over heat quickly.

  156. Anonymous says:


    You are entirely entitled to believe what you want, but we all know the points above are true. I use both Mac and PC and I prefer Windows more.

  157. person287 says:


    I’m thinking of switching back exactly for point 37. It hardly ever works with my network drive but Windows always does this fine.

  158. Anonymous says:


    Okay your points absolutely suck.  Yes you have some valid points that I agree with, however, you repeat the same problems multiple times with different wording.  You obviously haven’t used a mac very much because most of the things that your ripping on macs for not being able to do you actually are able to do.  For instance you say macs are missing something like “windows media center”, which is actually false, Macs come preinstalled with an app called Front Row.  Front Row is basically a windows media center, but nicer and easier to use.  Number 21. about the service is a load of bullshit, Apple has the best customer service in the industry.  First of all, when you call for tech support your actually talking to an american, not some guy in india that you can’t even understand.  And second have you ever been to an Apple Store? The have classes to learn how to use your mac daily, and you can take your mac in for free support and help whether your computer is still under warranty or not.  Please tell me somewhere that will do that with a PC.  The next point that is ridiculous is 27, the Alt-Control-Delete equivalent on a mac is command-shift-esc, that doesn’t seem any harder to me, but macs don’t get stuck so it’s rare that I have to use it.  The next thing is your compliant about right clicking, you put two fingers on the track pad and click to right click on a mac, that’s pretty damn easy.  

    Plus you get what you pay for.  At least Macs are made out of decent materials and they don’t feel like there going to fall apart when you pick it up.  Mac users also have a much much lower chance of getting a virus compared to even the best protected PC user.  My last point is macs are simply faster and a better user experience, you can load up a PC with the latest and greatest hardware and a Mac will still out preform it.  The mac OS is a smarter and faster OS than windows.  

  159. Anonymous says:


    um… that is because macs are made from aluminum WHICH IS AN ACTUAL METAL AND NOT FREAKING PLASTIC


  160. Oh ya… and I should let you know that the Mac has outgrown the PC industry every quarter for the last five years… the Mac has grown by 28% each quarter, while the PC has SHRANK by 1%

    Mac just owned u haters…

  161. Anonymous says:


    So apparently it has been more popular as of late. But does it mean it is better? No, it just means that idiot fanboys like you will believe anything Steve Jobs says.

  162. Anonymous says:


    well there you go. there “beautiful” design causes overheating. Good job Steve.

  163. Anonymous says:


    Guys, can we stop with all this bias? I use both platforms: Windows when I want to game, do homework, program, etc. I use Mac OS X when I want to look like a complete tool. 

  164. same guy as before says:


    And yes, I am a MS fanboy.

  165. Anonymous says:


    No… It isnt over heating, its just the metal heating up you dingbat

  166. MacForTheWin says:


    It just means that people are starting to trust it more… I hate it when people call us “fanboys” cause we are just supporting something we believe in… you’re an idiot “fanboy” who is too poor to afford a real computer… Ur PC is probly running an Intel Atom/Core 2 Duo… that Raj guy is right… “Mac users use Mac because they WANT to, PC users use PC because they HAVE to” Mac users can afford the best, so they buy it…The people who admit that Mac is good, but they prefer Windows are the people that have used both for years… “Mac Sucks”… great… your opinion proves all… I dont know why this war is raging, but seriously SHUT THE FUCK UP and go out and get a life! You aren’t gonna convince Mac users that PC is better, so do something productive in your time BITCH! People who have em like em, people who dont, dont… get a life fuckface…

  167. Anonymous says:


    Dude… Even the frickin writer of this said that this list is bullshit…


  168. Ok….
    1. Asus computers are the number 1 brand in the world on reliability, it has been proven, probably should google it…
    2. Asus makes every component a computer has…
    3. Asus laptops with i5 or even i3 models, with 6 GB of ram, thumb print reader, blu ray player, beats audio(extended better sound with bass/treble boosting), Wireless N card with an average of 300 foot range… Guess what? You can buy 3 of these for the price of one MacBookProAir… And lets see in the MacBookProAir you get… a garbage processor…. less RAM… a smaller harddrive…. maybe a blu ray player… NO BEATS AUDIO…. Wireless of 100foot range is a joke… NO thumb print reader… So… I guess it really is an advantage if you honestly have no idea what you are talking about…


  169. That’s great you seem to think that a MAC is the best thing. It really is not in terms of many things…

    I will refer you to

    1. Visit Asus.com
    2. Re-visit until you understand you get 3 Asus computers for same price as MacBookProAir…
    3. Sell your mac and admit Asus, the number 1 ranked computer manufacturer, for the last 5 years straight, wins…
    4. Windows is put on an Asus… Why is that? Because you can do everything on a PC, a MAC is for… well people who want to think they have a prestiegious product I suppose… It really ties in to the theory of marketing also, of which my minor is… and really it just states that people “assume quality is better when the price is higher on a-like goods” so…. yeah, you fans of mac, sorry you’re straight outta the text book. You might know something about computers, but I’m 22 and have been around them since i was 13… So I really doubt your “vast knowledge” can stack up to anything I will say back to you rofl.


  170. Heres some proof… In case you are completely retarded and do not how to search the internet for pricing and cannot figure out how to read a “specs-sheet”

    Heres an apple…
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834100132 On new egg 1,499…. New 1,999… So you can buy this piece of crap, used for 1,499 rofl wow what a great rip off…

    AND look at that… just like I said… something that you can buy 3 of so everyone in the family can use it, and look at the specs wow! Who would have thought MAC users were so stupid? Well I already Know you are… So heres your proof http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220868  Rofl 699 for a new laptop, thats 5 times the computer the one listed above is… Don’t even try to say anything back, your all wrong and stupid.

  171. Anonymous says:


    You are such a freakin idiot. Garbage processor? Yes, you are my computer guru. Everyone worldwide can agree that i5’s and i7’s are garbage. You are the biggest joke in computer history you freaktard. Also, the Wifi has, is, and always will be faster in Apple products. people says that PC’s are cheaper. Look at the GHz. It is the same price as a mac if the specs are the same. Idiots.

  172. Anonymous says:


    Look up a Powerbook G3/G4/whatever. I dont care. Any old Mac. The cheapest is like $600. Notice how a Mac holds its value even after 10 years? Let’s see a PC do that…

  173. MacForTheWin says:


    Dude… get a life. The only thing you fucking PC users have to live on is the Price/Gaming/OS. Price: fine, some PC’s are cheaper. I dont give a fuck. I will pay for quality, unlike you cheap asses. Gaming: Mac can run Windows, bitch so it has all. OS: Opinion. This is your fucking decision about what you like. Pick a side and stick with it. I am sticking with Mac, you can stick with Windows. That’s your problem fuckface.

    Even if you are in love with PC’s you have to admit that a lot of this list is bullshit. Maybe 8 or 9 of those points are true. The rest are fucking bullshit

  174. MacForTheWin says:


    Congrats. You know something about computers. Re-read that last sentence you wrote, and remember that you are not the fucking god of computers. You are a speck of dust in the computer industry. BTW: You may have been around them for 9 years, but I have been around them for 22. So back off bitch!

  175. Anonymous says:


    Point 7:  All the prgrams u mentioned are quite complicated to use. A mac can be complicated, but if u dont like to spend tones of time, a quick job can still turn out to be awsome. 


  176. are you a fanboy? you sound like a fanboy. i think you need to get off the whole bullshit about one computer being better overall. mac is good for mac operations and for the people that want to spend money on apple products. PCs are for people who want to spend money on PC products and use those operations.
    i.e: if you want to dig a hole (edit a movie) use a shovel (mac) not spade (PC)
    also i.e: if you want to tighten a screw (play  a video game) you use a screwdriver (PC) not a mac (vice grips)

    different tools are for different people.
    as well as other objects, different taste go to different people. so rather informing -whoever reads this- with [this] is better (or) [that] is better. why not give general information about the different products and let people decide for themselves.  

    -AW

  177. Jeff Weisbein says:


    I agree with you. This list was created out of boredom.  Anyway I should point out that is written in 2008, I’ve actually switched over to using a Mac since then.  Again, this list is far from perfect and I don’t necessarily agree with all of the points, but still I haven’t seen anyone come up with a list of 50 good reasons yet and it has been 3 years.  

  178. MacForTheWin says:


    This bro’s got it right


  179. Owning a Mac is like owning an Audi. An expensive Audi.
    When something goes wrong, back to Audi.
    New one comes out? Sell, buy new Audi.

    Pc’s are average joes. The civics & commodores. Then there’s Alienware and Razer, the ferraris and porches.

    Not everyone wants to live in a mansion, some people don’t need more than a 2 car garage.
    Style also comes into play too. Some people like the look of macs.
    Some people prefer designing and building their own. Maintaining their own.


  180. You can run MAC OS on Windows too nOOb


  181. Even if I am personaly a Mac user (yet I was a PC user long before) I do not dislike this list? Why? Because its one of the few times I see someone talking about window’s actual advantages. Yes, there are pluses and cons, and this list is suposed to be about windows’s pluses. Yet sadly, everytime I hear people talking about getting a windows over a Mac, most of the thing they do is trashing mac over facts that aren’t always true. (for instance, most people say mac can’t right click at all, while you state it just can’t BY DEFAULT, meaning it is possible in other ways, and it is, believe me).

    I think that if people would take time to read both your list and chris’s list, people would finaly be able to make educated choices about weither picking mac or PC. There’s really no winner or loser, its just about what you really want or need. Its a personal choice.

  182. MacForTheWin says:


    Ya, I know. Hackintosh you fucking bitch. I know how to make one, but would I? NO! Simply because a Hackintosh is illegal and you could end up in jail for a very long time for building one. I follow the law fucktard

  183. MacForTheWin says:


    Each computer does a differnt task. Stop comparing. If you support PC, put your money where your mouth is and buy a $6000 PC over a $4000 Mac. Then I respect you. If you are too cheap to do so, go fuck with your clunky old PC so you can shut up. I doubt it’ll even turn you on lol.


  184. Really mature answer.

    In addition, if you are so stupid that you pay for the computer for mating, then maybe you should rather buy a goat?

    • PCFanatics says:


      I tried to fuck my Pc but got electrocuted, I shall go purchase a goat. Thanks for the advise!

  185. MacForTheWin says:


    Ya, i do pay for it… cause i got the money you wish you had bitch

    Your wife: http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Ever_So_Sexy.jpg

    My wife: http://www.xxlmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/jessica-alba-sexy-nude-pics_16.jpg

    Suck it fucktard


  186. that has more to do with your system than it being a pc. If you don’t know what you bought, of course you will be surprised when it doesn’t work the way you want it to.


  187. Software is only is good as the hardware it runs on. I like the fluidity of the Mac OS, and admittedly the aesthetics of the applications, but my hardware fails about once every 6months or so. I’ve had so many problems, in fact, that Tier 3 Apple support had to step in and crew my machine (replace it). Since then (about a year ago) I’ve had 3 more parts swapped on my brand new machine. Meanwhile, I’ve had one of the worst customer service experiences of any store I’ve dealt with. I’d rather have a machine that allows me to customize the hardware to perform the tasks I need. As mentioned earlier, Apple’s user base is growing rapidly (though the statistics the quoted were misleading, if you look it up you’ll see their growth is almost exclusively in phones and, recently, ipads). I’d say it’s growing too rapidly for them to continue this one size fits all nonsense. 

    Also, “Please tell me somewhere that will do that with a PC.”
    http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/html/pbPage.Locations/home?cityzip=scottsdale

    And seriously, from a graphic designer, what would possess [Apple] to release an “updated OS” that pulls GPU support and is virtually incompatible with Adobe products?! 


  188. Shut up, you retard… learn how to make sense before posting


  189. You know… I can’t even post on this website from my Windows… I always have to use my Mac LOL


  190. I’ve only used Windows. I would like to spend time using a Mac so I could compare them and come up with my own conclusion. This was well written and you make good points. So for now, I’m content with a Windows computer.

    (why are Macs so much more expensive? you make the two seem equal in this article)


  191. lol typical mac fan boy, tell me little hipster did you cried when the king of hipsters died? or was his death too mainstream?


  192. follow the law or follow the bidding of the king of hipsters? lol ur a fucking lame ass fanboy! 


  193. “You know… I can’t even post on this website from my Windows… I always have to use my Mac LOL”
    Your computer must be as down syndormatic as you.


  194. Fuck you. My computer is just as stupid as every other PC. My Mac knows how to get the job done. (I like it how you defend my Core i7 4.1Ghz PC when you’ve never even seen it…)

  195. MacForTheWin says:


    Yes. I’m lame ass. When I have a job, a house and a wife, you can be crying in jail. Besides… if you are so bent on running OS X on ur PC, you’ve just proved that you’ll go to any measure to run it since you know it’s better BITCH.

  196. MacForTheWin says:


    Fuck you


  197. See… this is the annoying thing about you PC ppl… you guys don’t talk about the topic at hand… instead you go on to rants about Steve Jobs, the company itself, and other stuff like Android vs. IOS… like seriously… we’re talking about Mac and PC… why the hell are you bringing up Steve Jobs like this? If your greatest inspiration was your dad and he passed away tomorrow, how would you like it if I kept bringing his memory up in vain? You are a disgrace… whether you supported the man or not… how dare you ridicule the death of a human being? Someday my friend… you’ll meet your match in Hell…


    • Read the date of this post. February 21st, 2008. 3 years before Steve Jobs passed. I find it extremely unlikely that he was “bringing up his memory in vain,” or “ridiculing the death of a human being.” He was making a point, that’s all.

      • Anonymous says:


        That comment was a response to this: lol typical mac fan boy, tell me little hipster did you cried when the king of hipsters died? or was his death too mainstream? (in the comments below)

        not to the original post

        • Killigon says:


          Well, tell me, did anyone else here say that? No they didn’t! And! In your first comment you said, and I quote ”
          See… this is the annoying thing about you PC ppl…” You just there smacked every single PC user into one box just because one man said something about a man that I bet none of us really knew.


  198. Reasons to switch from to Apples from Oranges:

    Oranges do not support edible peel interfaces, without taste upgrades.
    Oranges do not support the colours red or green unless severely outmoded
    Orange systems do not have as large a stable and inedible core

    My point is TASTE!
    I like my Mac for some things (Audio recording/editing), I like my PC for others (plyblock pushups)

  199. CMGarcia55 says:


    You people are fucking retarded. You make fun of the writer about him talking about putting OSX on Windows machines and yet most Mac users do the same thing. Why spend 2500$ on a piece of shit laptop when you can spend 500-800$ for the same hardware?


    • “why spend 2500$ on a piece of shit laptop”
      That laptop is guaranteed to run for AT LEAST 7 years by Apple itself. I’d like to see Dell, HP, Compaq, Toshiba, Sony, Samsung, or any other manufacturer even guarantee 3 years for their computers. And no, you cannot get a Core i7 CPU running at 2.8Ghz for $500-$800. Those computers cost a minimum of $1000. So why spend, as you are says, double? (it’s actually not, it’s $1500 excluding warranty) Because you will have no viruses, multitouch, ease of use, convenience, integrated applications, a computer made of actual metal, and a guarantee for that computer… i’m not sure how this has “piece of shit” written over it?

      • Mistercadillac says:


        Just letting you know that I own a Macbook Air, but your comment about not being able to get an i7 machine for 500 to 800 is false.  I’ll be more than happy to sell you one for that price if you want to contact me.  By the way, my Macbook Air is awesome and I highly recommend it to everyone curious about it.

        • MacForTheWin says:


          Lol, if you wanna talk used, then I’ll sell you my Power Mac G4 for $300
          And yes, you might be able to get computers that are 800-900 with i7s, but they are first gen and not Sandy Bridge…
          let me ask you this… why does EVERY FREAKING PC MANUFACTURER make computers that have i7s with 8GB of ram with a nice graphics card for $1200, but then the SAME FREAKING PC MANUFACTURER makes another computer that is an i5 with 4GB of ram and an Intel HD 3000 for $1500… i’ll name a few: HP, Toshiba, Dell, Sony, Samsung, Acer, and Asus.

          I’ve attached some photos before from manufacturer’s websites. Let’s compare the HP’s first. They have the EXACT same specs, but one is $150 more… why?

          The Sony’s… OH MY FREAKING GOD… The $500 has an i5 with 4GB of ram, and the $1800 has i7 with 4GB of ram… HMMMMM WHATS THE DIFFERENCE? A better graphics card? Throw on $300 for the difference of that, and the processor, throw on another $200 difference… What is left in that $800 gap? Little things like battery life, design/erganomics, materials to make it… OH WAIT… that’s exactly what you guys said the MacBook Pro’s fail at… well compared to that $1800 Sony, the Pro is worth it… I got mine for cheaper than that WITH warranty (which is cheaper from Apple too, by the way)


      • I have had a toshiba u205 s5057 for something like 5 years. It is a wonderful computer. Granted, it is not my main machine (Which actually happens to be a mac pro) it is one of the best computers I have ever owned. Most of the brands you mentioned do have guarantees, and they are usually great computers ESPECIALLY Toshiba. The fact that macs do not have viruses is incorrect. I am a mac user, and love my mac but I also like the truth. My Macbook Air has had a trojan before. Windows has started having multitouch (Lenovo thinkpad X1 Carbon is the best example), and windows is plenty east. Remember the regular macbook (2009)? That was made of cheap plastic that scratched too easily. You can build an i7 machine for about 3.2 ghz for about 800. I built an i3 machine running at 3.4 ghz for only 400 dollars. So please, try to be less biased and more truthful. Because Fellow Mac users that turn into blatant fanboys with a skewed vision of reality drive me nuts.

    • CMGarcia55isapieceofcrap says:


      Um… if you can get an i7 desktop for $500-$800… why are there netbooks with Intel Atoms and 2GB of ram for $600? LOL
      Fail


  200. I have another reason to switch  back to a PC.  My hard drive  crashed after shutting off during update (An update was running, froze for about 20 minutes, I shut it off then could not reload the OS).  Apple says my beautiful IMac is irreparable (except in CA). because it is a “vintage” (read old) model.  I bought it in 2007.  The long and the short of it is:  Apple is unreliable.  I would never buy one again.


  201. You can run windows on your mac, so stop bitching

  202. For god's sake... says:


    People HAVE to stop relating the mass of the system to personal experience…
    I honestly don’t care if your mac broke down in 6 months or your PC got a virus and screwed up, I mean, what it all boils down to is personal preference, yes, I have a mac, and have owned a PC. I have tried both systems, I am not a gamer (on my computer anyway), and I have no grudge against either company. What I believe it boils down to is (apart from personal stories) The war is sparked by people just yelling about specs, my $1200 PC had BETTER specs (on paper) than the $2000 mac, however, the mac is faster, more powerful and perfect for what I enjoy doing. I’m not a computer expert but please stop posting shit about personal experience, it is not relevant to a mass population, show me someone disappointed with a mac and I’ll show you someone disappointed with PC…


  203. Thankfully, I’ve long ago stopped having much to do with Macs; and no, this isn’t coming from a PC fanboy. I encountered Macs “properly” after leaving Uni; where I’d been used to VAX/ VMS dumb terminals, DEC-Alpha terminals (running *Nix) and some PCs. And I’m sorry, but Macs are just weird- they strike me as the sole conifer tree in a deciduous forest, complaining that everyone else is a freak! I find it hard to believe Apple do so much useability research when their machines operate so massively differently to every other OS I’ve ever used (Windows, Redhat, VMS, BeOS, Solaris).
    @f1663f32d37ffffcda05ac38321d98dd:disqus Anyway, on to my main point. EVERY OS has it’s faults bacause they’re man-made. Add/ Remove programs isn’t perfect, and when it doesn’t work you have to start digging about in the registry, which isn’t fun (unless you’re happy risking trashing that machine). And the point about viruses doesn’t hold with me; people traget Windows not because they hate Microsoft, but because it has alarge install base and that’s the key. I have an AV solution on my smartphone (and no, it’s not an iPhone so there’s a smaller chance of me being targeted) but the point is is that Macs are getting hit more because they’re becoming used more. It would happen with any OS, criminals will go where the money is, and in this case money directly correlates with the number of machines available.
    I’ll finish by replying to uhhno’s comment from a while back. The snag is, is that in my view Audi’s aren’t that great either (and no, I don’t have one). If you’re comparing cars, I would say a Mac needs to be the equivalent of a Ferrari Enzo, not an Audi. a 1.4l Audi A8 can do 0-60 in 8 seconds. My car can do it in 10. An Enzo could do it in less than 4. The fact that it’s “just” an Audi wouldn’t sell it to me. And- imho- you can’t really compare it to a mansion. Mansions actually do something  normal houses don’t- like have a vast amount more space in terms of living capacity and land. A mansion would let me have a swimming pool indoors which most houses don’t. I could by a Mac, but it wouldn’t really do anything a PC couldn’t do. If I bought a Mac and it came with a CCTV system built in… that’s a distinct advantage. But it just does normal “computing” tasks that any other computer would do.

  204. HappyEngineer says:


    Ya know… You could just build a top of the line computer using your tax returns, use what software you want for under $1000? Yes, it will have to be a tower. All the parts are completely customizable so build it for what you want to do. I used a custom designed (no, I wont tell you. Design your own.) and installed the blueray player from my PS3, the kinect and some software from my 360. I am having some trouble integrating nintendo. Stubborn ass system. All this hooks up to a 50″ tv and is controlled with blue tooth keyboard and mouse, a 360/PS3 controller, and a playstation move hand held. I use it for gaming mostly with friends and family, and use alot of microsoft to avoid legal action and network troubles. Why do you have to say which company/product is better? Become an engineer, take what you want from both. Technology will only continue to improve. MacForTheWin- Your funny, but you keep ruining your arguement with a recurring foot in the mouth. I am not against you, but the price of your computer doesn’t equal how well it runs. But Apple stock and fan boys made me rich so keep buying!

  205. HappyEngineer says:


    Ya know… You could just build a top of the line computer using your tax returns, use what software you want for under $1000? Yes, it will have to be a tower. All the parts are completely customizable so build it for what you want to do. I used a custom designed (no, I wont tell you. Design your own.) and installed the blueray player from my PS3, the kinect and some software from my 360. I am having some trouble integrating nintendo. Stubborn ass system. All this hooks up to a 50″ tv and is controlled with blue tooth keyboard and mouse, a 360/PS3 controller, and a playstation move hand held. I use it for gaming mostly with friends and family, and use alot of microsoft to avoid legal action and network troubles. Why do you have to say which company/product is better? Become an engineer, take what you want from both. Technology will only continue to improve. MacForTheWin- Your funny, but you keep ruining your arguement with a recurring foot in the mouth. I am not against you, but the price of your computer doesn’t equal how well it runs. But Apple stock and fan boys made me rich so keep buying!


  206. I agree with most of what was said in this article. With that said….I still love my Mac.

    A Mac:

    Is it as easy to use…No
    Is it as powerful  (can it do as much)….No
    Is it less expensive…Heck No
    Is it as customizable…No
    Is it as easy to get help….No
    Can you ask for help online from a Mac expert without getting ridiculed…No
    Is there easy expandability…No
    Are Macs Malware free….No

    I admit all of this, as I have not fallen prey to the Apple or nothing mentality.

    With that said….I still find myself going back to my Mac. I can’t tell you why, but I do, and I care not what computer someone else uses. Use whatever you like.BTW…..”‘Nuff said” does not validate an argument, it just shows you are in middle school.

    • PCFanatics says:


      Finally! A non retarded mac user. Most of them are in denial of the things you admit. Good for you sir for not falling for Apples moronic and inaccurate ads.


  207. #35) Is it not so that Macs won’t be hit by viruses, just because PCs have a huge market around the world, most hackers work upon to breakthrough Windows. But the recent malware threats like the SapPub etc. have made Mac susceptible to intrusions of malwares. In Mac, these malwares are capable of causing serious damage to the data. I read an article that suggested that SapPub trojan is a data theft malware. Considering this, many, mac users will now shift their focus to install trusted Mac anit-virus. I personally got Sophos installed in :). Just protecting my valuable data from getting malwared. However, other options to protect the data in Mac are using a Mac cloning software, image the mac hard drive or use a 3rd party Stellar Mac file recovery tool.

  208. Bill gates says:


    Windows 7 and 8 beat Mac easy!


  209. I was always a Windows’ user and truth too be told the first time I ever used Mac was on studies three years ago. They were free to use for students so I gave it a shot, I mean why not? People says Macs are amazing and easy to use.

    Damn, that was a whole new experience and I can’t say it was for good. After three years I still can’t get used to the interface (it’s just… much much more different), to the unusual keyboard (I use a lots of short-cuts and you probably know what does it mean) and these mouses from hell. Yes, I won’t complain about OSX nor the hardware, which is alien to me so I can’t really say anything about it, but about the freaking mouses. How such big company like Apple cannot make their own mouses work nice? They are too slow, you can’t use right-click unless you customise it and their nice minimalistic design was really confusing. When I saw them for the first time I was wondering if I can click it without breaking it because I didn’t really see what am I pressing. After first clicking I was sure I have no reason to worry, because I had to try really hard to click anything. Is something blocking them? It was suppose to be so difficult?… Now I’m always use a mouse from my laptop. At least it’s working fine and OSX seems to take it.

    Anyway after the experience with OSX from Mordor I must say I will stay with the Windows from Hell. Maybe it is really from hell but it’s from my own, well known hellish place ;)

    Oh, and in my country I can’t really buy any games for Mac so… yes, Windows.

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